Built-in Parsers

[DaulBan]

I've seen some games getting ruined by making parsers official. The community gets very toxic and ruins the game for people that don't play on a high level.

If you don't mind me asking, which game was this?

[LalaRu]

If you don't mind me asking, which game was this?

I saw something that is not parsing but gear scoring, in wow, and people were kicked out for any silly reason because the "overall score" wasn't good enough. I don't think the same people, that kicks out others for not scoring good, will stop doing that when numbers comes out from a parser.

Returning to XIV, today we see Susano parties with i330 req, and o1s "fflogs" run for the epeen, so it is evident that making a parser "official" will unleash all the worse from people that today are refraining doing that, because parsers aren't to be mentioned in the game.

Last but not least, all the controversy this very thread shows off, is another reason to backup the "no parser" policy.

[DaulBan]

Returning to XIV, today we see Susano parties with i330 req, and o1s "fflogs" run for the epeen, so it is evident that making a parser "official" will unleash all the worse from people that today are refraining doing that, because parsers aren't to be mentioned in the game.

Last but not least, all the controversy this very thread shows off, is another reason to backup the "no parser" policy.

I mean, if your theory is that people might change their behaviour if parsing becomes 'legal' so to speak I'd say that the i330 susano farms and the fflogs runs are already just a part of the game right now. I don't know how making a parser legal would change what you literally described as something that happens in game right now. Raw min-DPS to meet or else you get kicked? Maybe? But if that's how someone wants to run their party all the power to them, though a lot of people wouldn't join just because that looks sketchy as hell.

And as always just because a topic is controversial in one place doesn't mean it's as controversial in another place. Unless SE held a referendum we can't actually make a solid statement about the opinions of the community from ~30 people bickering in a thread when there are thousands playing the game. The more realistic reason we'll never get a parser is that Yoshi-P just doesn't care one way or another about it.

[TamiaBlack]

If you don't mind me asking, which game was this?

Recently GW2, As soon as parsers went allowed officially people startet to get Toxic. More toxic then it was before Got kicked for example with just 10%-15% DPS below Meta, and the bosses are even doable with 25%-35% below Meta.

Don't remember if it was oficially supported, but felt so, WoW, Raidgroups and people in dungeons got very toxic really fast. Classic was way more relaxed.

In Statics, Parsers are no issue, because you shgould find a static that meets your gamestyle. I would never join a Harcore Raid group. I'm just not good enough for it. But in the Midcore where I'm in we get our kills too. It just needs a bit longer. The problems start if people start flaming in Random Content.

[akaneakki]

Recently GW2, As soon as parsers went allowed officially people startet to get Toxic. More toxic then it was before Got kicked for example with just 10%-15% DPS below Meta, and the bosses are even doable with 25%-35% below Meta.

I need proof on that as a gw2 AND BnS player. Most people who can't even do the raids in these game doesn't only screw up dps or dodgin the mechanics but also are very bad at performing the mechanics itself.
There are people who get kicked mainly for those reasons. And those games are heavy on mechanics, most of them 1 shot.