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    Wintersandman's Avatar
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    Winter Sandman
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    If you think there are few rewards, you play too much; they are equal to the beast tribe quests in value, if not slightly better.
    Uh this doesn't make sense at all. I can play an hour and get 4 frontline matches in which nets out to 3200-4000 wolf marks. If I do roulette there is 4200-5000. 7 Days of 1 hour a day is 35000 wolf marks a week. Also I don't see how the rewards are equal or better than beast tribes. Beast tribes actually have value outside of outdated gear, materia, and other crap. So that statement is just straight up false.

    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    one on one arena in the wolf's den; something you think you all want but is useless when you get it.
    I know a lot of people who do the one on one arena in Wolves Den. You may deem it useless but there are people who love it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geryth View Post
    I failed to look at what it could be if we opened up the design space. Progression gear PvP can be rewarding and fun and implemented properly, but would break FFXIV if shoved in the non-chat non-group feast, and a few veterans would absolutely bully and destroy newbies in Frontlines - where it's not like they can just go grab 23 friends and beat you with cooperation.
    You also had this same thing happen in WoW. Premades dominated and they do in FFXIV as well. I know because I run one.
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    Last edited by Wintersandman; 11-02-2017 at 02:11 AM.