Your map grid system is chafing my legs

[captainpicard]

I must say,

I am really surprised at how many people defend this grid schema used on the maps.

Location A-2 is very clear
Location 2-3 is not

I used X/Y verbiage in my original thread, but at no point that I am aware of does SE actually allude to this in the game. They make the assumption that you know.

I do know. I have always known. Knowing was never the point. There are people out there that don't know. There are people out there that are dyslexic. There are people out there that find this challenging.

Letter - Number takes any guess work out of it, and doesn't require prior knowledge of anything.

I think you all have a big hard on for a sub-standard grid schema. I still have not seen anyone provide a reason why using number - number is superior.

[Answa]

I must say,

I am really surprised at how many people defend this grid schema used on the maps.

Location A-2 is very clear
Location 2-3 is not

I used X/Y verbiage in my original thread, but at no point that I am aware of does SE actually allude to this in the game. They make the assumption that you know.

I do know. I have always known. Knowing was never the point. There are people out there that don't know. There are people out there that are dyslexic. There are people out there that find this challenging.

Letter - Number takes any guess work out of it, and doesn't require prior knowledge of anything.

I think you all have a big hard on for a sub-standard grid schema. I still have not seen anyone provide a reason why using number - number is superior.

(X,Y) is clear no matter where you're from. People have already pointed out numerous ways in which the letter system could potentially be confusing/unusable, whereas numbers are universal, as well as the Cartesian system.

You're just being whiny. In every thread you make, no less.

[Coglin]

(X,Y) is clear no matter where you're from. People have already pointed out numerous ways in which the letter system could potentially be confusing/unusable, whereas numbers are universal, as well as the Cartesian system.

You're just being whiny. In every thread you make, no less.

No, its actually not clear. You assume everyone in the game is educated, that may not be the case.

Those who have been taught this, may never have used it in years and may have forgoten. Some may simply not recal which is Horiontal axis and which is vertical axis?

Reguardless, everytime someone says meet me at (3, 9) I have to verify which is which with them, because even is you are I are familiar with the system, it doesn't mean they are.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

No, its actually not clear. You assume everyone in the game is educated, that may not be the case.

Those who have been taught this, may never have used it in years and may have forgoten. Some may simply not recal which is Horiontal axis and which is vertical axis?

Reguardless, everytime someone says meet me at (3, 9) I have to verify which is which with them, because even is you are I are familiar with the system, it doesn't mean they are.

It is very simple. If for some reason you forget something so basic and universal you just type in <pos> and then look at the map to see how the coords matched up.

If you still cannot get to that point, you can ask someone how it works. It's a game full of other players you know. That's the beauty of it.

[Murugan]

No, its actually not clear. You assume everyone in the game is educated, that may not be the case.

Those who have been taught this, may never have used it in years and may have forgoten. Some may simply not recal which is Horiontal axis and which is vertical axis?

What a wonderful opportunity for the game to teach them something that also translates into real life. Learning the universal system for reading coordinates. This will save them potential embarrassment in public of having to have it explained to them.

This game should be more educational I think. Like the new Pakistani Sesame Street, only for MMORPG players.

[Bahn]

What a wonderful opportunity for the game to teach them something that also translates into real life. Learning the universal system for reading coordinates. This will save them potential embarrassment in public of having to have it explained to them.

This game should be more educational I think. Like the new Pakistani Sesame Street, only for MMORPG players.

I haven't used x, y coordinates for my real life use for ages. I don't have a major that uses it on a day to day basis nor have any need for it in practical terms. I don't know about you, but when I tell someone to meet me somewhere IRL, I don't give them freakin' x, y coordinates, I tell them to meet me at a location using words to describe it (in front of the name brand store, next to the parking lot, etc).

I think the x, y system is fine, but I also understand why it can be a pain in the ass, as I often find myself doing double takes when someone gives me coordinates, especially because coordinates are used maybe once or so per week.

The best way to fix it is to simply label the damn coordinates on the map and in game so that there is absolutely zero doubt. That should keep the OP happy.

Edit: Oh good, they are. Thanks Felis. And I still prefer my definition of B2P.

[Answa]

No, its actually not clear. You assume everyone in the game is educated, that may not be the case.

Those who have been taught this, may never have used it in years and may have forgoten. Some may simply not recal which is Horiontal axis and which is vertical axis?

Reguardless, everytime someone says meet me at (3, 9) I have to verify which is which with them, because even is you are I are familiar with the system, it doesn't mean they are.

This game caters to 4 countries/regions, officially. In each one of those, cartesian coordinates are taught as part of one's elementary schools. This is not optional.

Coordinates don't use operators, it's not basing something out of multiplication, division, exponents, derivatives, integrals, nothing. They're not even decimals. It's two integers, pertaining to "x" and "y'. If you don't know which is which (by way of brain fart, hopefully) just move either of the four cardinal directions while viewing your map and see which number changes (it changes in real time, imagine that!).

[RathSkybreaker]

No, its actually not clear. You assume everyone in the game is educated, that may not be the case.

Those who have been taught this, may never have used it in years and may have forgoten. Some may simply not recal which is Horiontal axis and which is vertical axis?

Reguardless, everytime someone says meet me at (3, 9) I have to verify which is which with them, because even is you are I are familiar with the system, it doesn't mean they are.

the way I remember this is you have to run to put the ladder before you climb it >_>

[Delsus]

the way I remember this is you have to run to put the ladder before you climb it >_>

At school I was always taught "along the corridor and up the stairs" seriously anyone with half a brain cell knows this, every time you use graphs in science or maths x and y stay the same, also on graphs and anything else that might use the same type of system (I think graphs and maps are the only ones though)

If simple coordinates baffle people then they surely cant play this game.

[Scherwiz]

At school I was always taught "along the corridor and up the stairs" seriously anyone with half a brain cell knows this, every time you use graphs in science or maths x and y stay the same, also on graphs and anything else that might use the same type of system (I think graphs and maps are the only ones though)

If simple coordinates baffle people then they surely cant play this game.

Oh so sorry sir, my music major brain cannot comprehend the almighty "along the corridor and up the stairs" so well, please help me. You are right it shouldn't be hard for someone to read these maps, but the fact is they are overly large with absolutely no zoom feature. To say that the numbers are better in this situation is laughable, and for you to talk about math as if it never uses letters in graphs is even more silly.