PVP Rank and PVP Experience Change

[Wintersandman]

But it's extremely demoralizing to be a new player trying to get into PvP and not only is there a learning curve to PvP where you are out-skilled, by also being terribly out-geared really makes the prospect of winning any games an unlikely venture. And not winning games means getting the new gear comes painfully slow. That's where a lot of players nope out, feeding into the participation problem making other new players more likely to match up against veterans. And that's where we are now, without progression gear feeding into the problem. New players can't get into games and the games they get into are against higher ranked players or some high ranked player playing on a low ranked alt.

Now the problem is there is no point investing the time into PvP. There is no motivation to continue like there is for PvE which is where gear progression is beneficial. It's like great I can spend all this time pvp'ing and there is no real reward for my time spent. There should be something that shows for investing time in either PvE or PvP. I am behind gear wise for PvE and if I tank I know I will be getting hate ripped off me. I have to invest the time and it will be frustrating just as it is for the new person starting off in PvP. Your demoralization argument applies to PvE as well but you don't see SE changing how that works. How long did it take groups to say Clear needed on new Ex fights and won't take anyone new in PF? I see it within a week.

So there should be something to show that you spend the time. PVE gets it all. Mounts, gear and titles.