Locking Balmung/Gilgamesh is not working

[Serilda]

I don't think they have ever said that they're afraid of opening an RP server due to toxic players. I think they see it as unnecessary, because RP happens on every single server in the game (this is also true for Japanese servers). If anything, painting Balmung as the RP destination caused a lot of problems of its own.

I don't mind either way, but I do think it's a shame to discourage RPing everywhere. But then I was on an RP server where RP was never actually enforced and it just threw up a whole bunch of new problems of its own.

[PerkPrincess]

I don't think they have ever said that they're afraid of opening an RP server due to toxic players. I think they see it as unnecessary, because RP happens on every single server in the game (this is also true for Japanese servers). If anything, painting Balmung as the RP destination caused a lot of problems of its own..

Again, because when players are left to make due with the ( non existent ) tools on their own, they will swarm and overpopulate servers, 100% of the time. SE literally set this problem up themselves by assuming the community can direct itself.

Except the community set other servers as RP servers, and that did not help much either. People interested in RP go to RP sites, where all of this is laid out.

Because they were dead servers to begin with, with absolutely little backing. Mateus is the only other reasonable alternative to Balmung or Gilgamesh. And it's already closed, too. Who woulda thunk it.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Again, because when players are left to make due with the ( non existent ) tools on their own, they will swarm and overpopulate servers, 100% of the time. SE literally set this problem up themselves by assuming the community can direct itself.



Because they were dead servers to begin with, with absolutely little backing. Mateus is the only other reasonable alternative to Balmung or Gilgamesh. And it's already closed, too. Who woulda thunk it.

Its not closed, I've made test chars all weekend.

Also, creating a new server for RP would just have the same problem. It would fill up, lock, and then this thread would happen again.

[Khaidal]

Its not closed, I've made test chars all weekend.

Also, creating a new server for RP would just have the same problem. It would fill up, lock, and then this thread would happen again.

Well, one good thing I could see in creating an official RP server is that you wouldn't have people coming here crying, "Wah wah wah, RPers ruined my server. I miss my small town feel."

[Shofie]

I don't think they have ever said that they're afraid of opening an RP server due to toxic players. I think they see it as unnecessary, because RP happens on every single server in the game (this is also true for Japanese servers). If anything, painting Balmung as the RP destination caused a lot of problems of its own.

From the E3 Liveletter earlier this year:

Q: Are there any plans to mark certain servers as 'role play' specific ones?
A: In terms of having an icon displayed on the screen when you log in and see the worlds, the work that goes into that - it can be done instantaneously. But that being said, whether or not we should do this, we are torn on. It's been 4 years since the launch of ARR and we know that a lot of people RP on Balmung and I'm sure that some would be ok with being labelled as being ok for RP, but there might be some people who did not join for that purpose. We don't want to create a toxic environment where people say 'if you're not RPing then get out of this world'. But I'm sure there are voices that are raised, but it would be nice to get data to back that up, maybe a survey or something like that. We are positively looking into it but torn on what timing to implement it.

They are torn on wanting to add it, and specifically want us to ask for it. So here we are. We ask. Please.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

From the E3 Liveletter earlier this year:



They are torn on wanting to add it, and specifically want us to ask for it. So here we are. We ask. Please.

It already happens on Balmung, it would definitely happen on an RP labeled server.

also, the mass transfers would then cause that server to be locked, and then "why can't we invite our friends to the RP server, its always locked" threads.

[PerkPrincess]

It already happens on Balmung, it would definitely happen on an RP labeled server.

also, the mass transfers would then cause that server to be locked, and then "why can't we invite our friends to the RP server, its always locked" threads.

I love how you assume on Balmung and Gilgameshes population.

I'd absolutely be willing to bet a good chunk of both pops compose of people who just joined because their non RPer friends are there. Only to be massively confused by all the RP nonesense going on.

[Shofie]

It already happens on Balmung, it would definitely happen on an RP labeled server.

also, the mass transfers would then cause that server to be locked, and then "why can't we invite our friends to the RP server, its always locked" threads.

Nah, this is why you make more than one server, and if it's designated as a roleplaying server, then it will largely be populated with roleplayers, and less folks who are there for PVE. Balmung actually does have quite a lot of raiders and non-roleplayers on it for example. Again, labeling the servers PVE or RP doesn't hurt anything. It costs SE nothing to do this. Their fear, as stated by them, is a concern that there would be an association with toxicity and the roleplay community (i.e. roleplayers being hostile toward NON-roleplayers, not the other way around).

That's it. It doesn't hurt anyone to do this. I don't get the resistance to it. World of Warcraft has RP flagged servers, and everyone knows to go to those servers to find other roleplayers. That's it. A lot of the RP concentrates on 2-3 servers, but that doesn't mean the other appropriately labeled servers don't have roleplayers on them. But it gives a very concise, easy way for roleplayers to find other roleplayers without relying on third-party websites for information. It would help alleviate a lot of the bloat on Balmung, which is a merged legacy server that's been around forever.

When Balmung got locked down, there was a lot of confusion over where to move to. Why? Because despite having many out-of-game resources, no one could really rally under any one of them for a long time. When they finally did settle on Mateus, there was a pretty loud outcry from the people already on Mateus about having roleplayers move onto "their" server. Making a new server (or two) and labeling them as roleplaying realms would prevent a LOT of unhappiness and reduce the bloat from overfull servers, because people would have a distinct place to go, unified by the game itself.

Thanks to cross server parties, we don't need to worry about a lack of PVE content because we are on an RP realm.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Nah, this is why you make more than one server, and if it's designated as a roleplaying server, then it will largely be populated with roleplayers, and less folks who are there for PVE. Balmung actually does have quite a lot of raiders and non-roleplayers on it for example. Again, labeling the servers PVE or RP doesn't hurt anything. It costs SE nothing to do this. Their fear, as stated by them, is a concern that there would be an association with toxicity and the roleplay community (i.e. roleplayers being hostile toward NON-roleplayers, not the other way around).

That's it. It doesn't hurt anyone to do this. I don't get the resistance to it. World of Warcraft has RP flagged servers, and everyone knows to go to those servers to find other roleplayers. That's it. A lot of the RP concentrates on 2-3 servers, but that doesn't mean the other appropriately labeled servers don't have roleplayers on them. But it gives a very concise, easy way for roleplayers to find other roleplayers without relying on third-party websites for information. It would help alleviate a lot of the bloat on Balmung, which is a merged legacy server that's been around forever.

When Balmung got locked down, there was a lot of confusion over where to move to. Why? Because despite having many out-of-game resources, no one could really rally under any one of them for a long time. When they finally did settle on Mateus, there was a pretty loud outcry from the people already on Mateus about having roleplayers move onto "their" server. Making a new server (or two) and labeling them as roleplaying realms would prevent a LOT of unhappiness and reduce the bloat from overfull servers, because people would have a distinct place to go, unified by the game itself.

Thanks to cross server parties, we don't need to worry about a lack of PVE content because we are on an RP realm.

Thing is tho, thats an extra cost to add new servers, and why would anyone do that when they perfectly good empty servers already? Adding "RP" servers would require new hardware for each server, and if no one moves off the old servers to go there, then they just wasted a ton of money on hardware because of a few people on the forums.

[D-chan]

Thing is tho, thats an extra cost to add new servers, and why would anyone do that when they perfectly good empty servers already? Adding "RP" servers would require new hardware for each server, and if no one moves off the old servers to go there, then they just wasted a ton of money on hardware because of a few people on the forums.

Merge two of the lowest pop "empty" servers, then, and use the freed resources for a new server. Yes, it takes money, but at some point that's got to stop being an excuse. SE's job is to invest money into the game to make a profit. The situation on Balmung right now is not okay, people are losing faith in SE, people are getting so fed up they are quitting or considering it because they can't stand being on Balmung anymore but don't want to be parted from their friends and the largest RP community. We've put up with the long queues and the server crashes, the ridiculous lack of housing and contradicting info about what can or can't be done in regards to people "flipping" houses, the lack of fresh faces in the community and the inability to play on the same server as friends who are just picking up the game, and now the economy is absolutely tanking.

People are either saving ridiculous amounts of gil to buy houses at multiple times their actual cost from other players, or they already have their house or have foregone that madness and have instead already bought all the things they want and need. There are no new players and no new characters being made. There's jump potions available atm so even classes and characters people haven't gotten around to leveling yet don't need low-level gear and food etc. when they can just get boosted to a high level instead of grinding out levels. No one is buying anything. Prices are super low and they drop drastically every day, sometimes every hour, sometimes in minutes. Undercutting is out of hand. Things just aren't selling. Making gil is nearly impossible, yet if you want a house, you need to save up a few dozen mil for a small plot and risk getting in trouble for buying it from another player. If you need to clear out your inventory, you'll have better luck trashing what you have or vendoring it, because otherwise your retainers will be sitting full of things listed on the marketboard for weeks. It's getting out of hand and it's long past time SE does something about it when no other fix has been more than a band-aid at best.

We have seen how Mateus's population blew up so quickly when it was named the unofficial, secondary RP server. There's not a chance that at least the same level of interest wouldn't be generated by an official RP server.