Kugane tower jump

[Tsunenori]

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As I said, none of my post is to exclude that they can't do it better in the future. Consistent visual design is important, and people would absolutely tear a Mario game apart at the seams if sections requiring precise platforming had a bunch of collisions you couldn't anticipate or that didn't follow a set logic, so I agree with you that what you see is what you should get.

I'm just also coming at it from the other side and saying that, regardless of what you see, you are still going to be learning the rules of the jumps and where to aim each one, so fundamentally at a base level it doesn't change anything. If you want to get it done it's all going to come down to rote repetition, so rather than fighting against the way it's designed it's better to get comfortable with those collisions since it's not like they change each time anyway.

I'm also totally not against them cleaning up the tower a bit and making some of those sections more consistent, such as the part where you have to jump around the north side of the tower to the east side, or the final jump at the top which is probably the worst offender.

You can barely see the steps as is, without the addition of six or so other avatars standing on you.

There's always a Roegadyn in a robe blocking everyone's feet. Every time.

[BillyKaplan]

ngl realizing that Kugane Tower (Extreme) was actually only HM before 4.1 released Kugane Tower (Savage) was a cold, sinking sensation in my gut.
That said, having cleared HM prior to 4.1, it was very easy for me to reach the same stage I usually got stuck at before, which was just before the roof, and I actually figured out what I was doing wrong so now it's pretty easy. On top of that I was lucky enough to make the jump on my second attempt.

As many said before, if it's nothing you enjoy, you don't have to do it. I adore that sort of thing, so while a bit overwhelming, I enjoyed this.

[Alleo]

I was not really happy when I finally reached the top of the tower after hours of falling of thanks to their hit-boxes, I was just relieved to finally be done with that, took some nice screenshots, watched others try it and never been there since then...only to see that new vista on that lamp and a friend of mine pointing out that you probably need to climb the tower again..really..why SE?

I am fine if you introduced that one puzzle but was it really necessary to introduce another vista one patch later that needs that tower on top of that? Will we have another lamp in 4.2? Cant we just not leave old stuff behind and create new puzzles for the new ones?

I know that this is not needed for a quest or something but if you want to finish all vistas you need to truly do that tower again but this one will probably sit there for a long time..

[Blindheart]

The feeling when you jumped off and fail....
Damn I really can't imagine what it feels like ...
One facepalm ain't enough.

Took me 6 jumps off the top... That pain is ouchie... Added to that the other pains of just getting to the top... It was not fun.

[ServerCollaps]

kugane tower only requires a bit of routine, as every other kind of content in the game. The jumps are always the same and never change and at some point everyone will memorize them.

[Spiroglyph]

There's always a Roegadyn in a robe blocking everyone's feet. Every time.

I play lalafell, so whenever I'm at it more often than not I have to stop and wait till everyone jumps or falls the hell off and I can see myself again...

[Hestzhyen]

Tried it myself, for at least two hours... got about 75% of the way up, failed the peg jumps before getting on to the balcony and gave up. That new vista in Kugane will forever taunt me but so be it. I'd like to make it up there but aiming for invisible ledges and starting to run from thin air only to get blocked by invisible edges and falling down well below where I was having trouble is too frustrating. Kudos to the people who stuck with it and got to the top though. I just don't have the patience for it. I'd rather beat my head against content the game's graphics and physics engines were designed for.

[Deceptus]

They simply need to increase the hitboxes on some of those jumps. Sure it will make it "easier", but it needs to represent what it is trying to show in game. You shouldn't be aiming for the air around and outside of the logs.

[Kuroka]

and if they did that it makes it compulsory not optional.

As if they cant exclude that one for the teleports to the ruby sea >_>

[Reinha]

Here's a video for those who struggle with the last couple of jumps or don't want to risk falling. The video is not mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfTHAh70_Yk

I started this game hating all jumping puzzles but doing the whole sightseeing log got me to eventually like them. Every challenge doesn't have to involve rotations and combat mechanics. I'm looking forward to whatever new puzzles we get, especially if they are logic puzzles or mazes.