Should SE sell Gil (similar to WOW Tokens)

[Krotoan]

since.

As for large groups abusing the power of temp suspension through reporting that would only get them banned once SE found out about it, or anyone else trying it for that matter. Either way, we can all agree Report RMT is just not efficient enough. The same advertising bot remains for pretty much an entire day no matter how much we report them. Sure there is blacklisting but you can only blacklist so many before it's time to clean out the blacklist.

People WILL abuse it. Even with the threat of punishment people will abuse it. I would appreciate more expedient reporting results as well, but in my experience usually the spammers disappear in about 20 minutes .

[Reaperking386]

You opened a can of worms. :P I wouldn't have a problem with it, but you are gonna get a lot of "that is P2W" or the "game is doomed" the same way WoW did. Yet, it's been a couple of years and the game hasn't managed to spontaneously combust.

Yep...been trying to let this die since another poster gave me the links to the other posts. Just been reading those. Sorry guys.

[Theodric]

No. It would be a disaster for the economy.

[Felis]

How it can work without inflating the economy: turn it into a gil sink

- Player 1 buy a sub token for real money and sell it to the sub token NPC for 300k gil (fixed price)
- Player 2 buy the token, that player 1 sold to the NPC, for 1m gil (fixed price)
Player 1 is 300k gil richer, player 2 have his sub and 700k gil less is in the economy. And the supply of the NPC depend on the amount of tokens that got sold to him.

Aren't the cherry trees in the mog station tradeable?

Authentic cherry tree: from Mog Shop, not tradeable
Cherry Tree: not from Mog Shop, tradeable, limited supply because from a past event (once placed in a garden it become binded)

[KokonoeAiyoko]

People say "pay to win". What are you actually winning here? Glamour items? Housing? Gil doesn't mean a whole lot in this game.

You guys realize people are buying RMT gil in droves on every single western server with no signs of it stopping. People are already buying gil. I'd much rather people be buying it from the company themselves than botters who exploit the system.

[Joe777]

People say "pay to win". What are you actually winning here? Glamour items? Housing? Gil doesn't mean a whole lot in this game.

You guys realize people are buying RMT gil in droves on every single western server with no signs of it stopping. People are already buying gil. I'd much rather people be buying it from the company themselves than botters who exploit the system.

And they eventually get caught and banned too.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

And they eventually get caught and banned too.

The sellers get banned, but the buyers practically never get banned. I see people brag about how much gil they buy out in the open and they're still here to this day. Even after reports. SE can't afford to ban all the buyers because that's a huge chunk of the player base.

If they get banned it's only temporarily.

[Zojha]

How it can work without inflating the economy.

It technically cannot inflate the economy, because none of the gil involved is generated - it all comes from other players and thus already IS in the economy.

The difference lies in circulation. We have gil sponges in this game where the gil just accumulates without ever returning back into circulation, because these people "have nothing to buy", which prevents the effects of inflation to realize. By giving them something to spend that money on, you return those huge gil amounts back to the circulation, rather than letting them rot where they are. Any inflation effects these tokens can cause is not due to actual inflation, it's because rich people simply start using their wealth instead of keeping up the dragon hoard.

And it's best to simply let them keep that hoard. If you want to fight inflation, your best bet is to increase the market board tax, tp and repair cost, then ensure that rich people remain without anything to buy.

[Dameron]

This is a stupid and idiotic question, and it only becomes even more stupid the more I see it.

No, of course SE shouldn't be selling Gold. Are you out of your damn mind? Whether directly or indirectly, being able to buy your way to power is called Pay 2 Win. And not a single subscription-based or even just a paid game should have P2W elements. This is yet another thing Blizzard did wrong in a desperate attempt to squeeze money out of their dying game, and it's disgusting that people would defend this, let alone suggest to bring it elsewhere.

[DeaconMoore]

The sellers get banned, but the buyers practically never get banned. I see people brag about how much gil they buy out in the open and they're still here to this day. Even after reports. SE can't afford to ban all the buyers because that's a huge chunk of the player base.

If they get banned it's only temporarily.

And you're 100% sure those braggarts are telling the truth? And you know that a "huge chunk of the player base" is buying gil how? How much rmt gil have you bought and kept without getting banned?

Also who else besides regular players do you think will be buying those tokens? Yep, the botters and rmt dealers. Those tokens will be free for them. They use bots, stolen credit cards and hacked accounts to get what they want and need.