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  1. #21
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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Violet Flower
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 23
    Half of melee/tank actions are useless outside of combo. You never use Royal Authority alone for 100 potency when it does 360 in combo. You don't use Full Thrust alone for 100 potency when it does 440 in combo. Keeping these skills alone taking whole spot is a waste of hotbar space.
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  2. #22
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    I wouldn't mind if the ability count goes down so long as functionality isn't lost. Some jobs I don't think could really take advantage of this though, adding this might accidentally make certain jobs considered even more difficult than before.

    As for split path stuff I can suggest a special hotbar that pops up during these moments (optional, players can place down all of them like now if they want), a combo tree sort of. This hotbar can be moved around, clicked, and has it's own hotkey bindings that can be edited (and appears/disappears/fills itself as needed).

    So you can see those split path abilities 1 - 2 - 3 , 1 - 2 - 4, 1 - 3 - 5.. those sort of things. Turn into:

    1, 1, 1
    1, ~ + 2, 1
    1, ~ + 3, 1

    Three unique finishers, and their in-between has all been moved into 1 button/tree.

    The ~ just being a random choice of the key pressed in combination. Becomes a problem for Samurai's combo skipper ability though, since they need access to all the finishers but I guess that activating the ability just opens it's own tree (1 through 5, for each finisher).

    So Samurai would now have 1 single target and 1 aoe ability on the bar (and 4 abilities have been moved off the bar into trees).

    Any sort of stance swap I feel could be moved into one ability (click and it changes to the other).

    But some jobs will definitely be seeing better benefits with the addition than others lol, which may shift which jobs people play (happily and unhappily).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-20-2017 at 04:17 PM.

  3. #23
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    Lemuria's Avatar
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    As for split path stuff I can suggest a special hotbar that pops up during these moments
    That would be a horrible, horrible system. Not only would the follow up combos magically end up on another key, you'd have to rebind a bunch of controls just to use it.

    If it isn't broken, don't fix it. For my part, I find the PvP system absolutely abhorrent. It takes any nuance out of the game and turns into a button mashing contest. That's not how PvE should become.
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  4. #24
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    CrystalRainbow's Avatar
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    Crystal Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 80
    I too think this would be a nice upgrade
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  5. #25
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    Mirchea Luslec
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    It is in pvp only to increase mobility as you need to fight and move A LOT.
    as if it was even needed before lul, fight and move a lot it's not like it changed now
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  6. #26
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Combo buttons sucks for high ping players. As a MCH you can hit Heated Slug Shot only for it to stop mid-animation because it changed to Slug Shot, wasting more then a GCD.

    Not to mention it'd further the gap for job difficulties, or dumb them all down.

    No thanks.
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  7. #27
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    Lastelli's Avatar
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    That could be a good idea to reduce button bloat for future expansions without having to further prune our skills. If they were to do it right now, most jobs would become really boring, as they'd reduce to mindless key spamming. But if/when they introduce more skills and more combos, such a system might become the only viable solution.
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  8. #28
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I'd love to see it happen. It's a great way to reduce button bloat and leave plenty of room to add new, engaging skills in the future.
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  9. #29
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    Character
    Katuchi La-chancla
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    Moogle
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    Bard Lv 90
    Play red mage in PvE.
    Then play red mage in PvP.
    Cry... red mage is so much more fun in PvP
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  10. #30
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Sure... make PvE even more simple. People are still unable to press 11 buttons in PvP, how should that help in PvE?

    Having combo-buttons would only make sense, if the class stay complex enough (like Blade and Soul). But FFXIV is simple enough, no need to add combo-buttons in PvE. If you think so, play SAM or RDM. You re welcome.
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