Should SE sell Gil (similar to WOW Tokens)

[Krotoan]

If this were the only thread in recent days made about adding a feature from WoW to FF14 I would not have said what I have. No, this is but one of many recently made. Feel free to search for the others to see what I mean.

I've read those threads. Sometimes they're different people. Sometimes they're the same people asking for other features. These will be around as long as other MMO's have features implemented in a way these people like and have been around long since before "recent days".
I stand by what I said, nobody is asking for FFXIV: WoW, or they'd be playing WoW.

All that being said you are certainly entitled to your vote nay or yay. Just don't get too caught up in the fact that someone referenced another MMO. THey like the feature, not the whole game.

[Joe777]

I've read those threads. Sometimes they're different people. Sometimes they're the same people asking for other features. These will be around as long as other MMO's have features implemented in a way these people like and have been around long since before "recent days".
I stand by what I said, nobody is asking for FFXIV: WoW, or they'd be playing WoW.

All that being said you are certainly entitled to your vote nay or yay. Just don't get too caught up in the fact that someone referenced another MMO. THey like the feature, not the whole game.

I'm not the only one asking for a halt on suggesting things from WoW lol heck someone even made a thread about it.

[Krotoan]

I'm not the only one asking for a halt on suggesting things from WoW lol heck someone even made a thread about it.

no you aren't. ... is that reason enough to keep doing it even though it isn't actually relevant to the OPs intentions?

[Joe777]

no you aren't. ... is that reason enough to keep doing it even though it isn't actually relevant to the OPs intentions?

It just means even if I don't say it others will, and actually already have... Also it is to be expected in any other threads referencing WoW features made after this one. Hopefully, none happen in the near future...

[Krotoan]

It just means even if I don't say it others will, and actually already have... Also it is to be expected in any other threads referencing WoW features made after this one. Hopefully, none happen in the near future...

Interesting logic: "others are gonna do it, why can't it be me?"

Every well implemented feature in an MMO will have a best example. WoW does a lot of things well because it's been around for a long time and many have played/are playing it. I've also heard suggestions from LotRO, GW2, and Lineage. Weirdly enough though the only ones people regularly pipe up against are the WoW ones.


I'm not a mod, so I can't stop anyone but I can try to inform. If you're just against it because it happens to be from one particular MMO, one has to wonder why?

[Joe777]

Interesting logic: "others are gonna do it, why can't it be me?"

Every well implemented feature in an MMO will have a best example. WoW does a lot of things well because it's been around for a long time and many have played/are playing it. I've also heard suggestions from LotRO, GW2, and Lineage. Weirdly enough though the only ones people regularly pipe up against are the WoW ones.


I'm not a mod, so I can't stop anyone but I can try to inform. If you're just against it because it happens to be from one particular MMO, one has to wonder why?

It's not that I'm doing it because others are doing it, it's just that it means that many more people are rather disapproving of so many WoW-based feature suggestions.

I know many an mmo use like-minded features and the one game trying to be as different as possible is failing miserably because they can't even fix their own game and their balancing is a complete mess. As for how often suggestions come from other games, can't say I've seen any in sequence from the others, but I cannot deny possibly seeing them mentioned here and there.

Why am I against multiple suggestions coming from WoW? Well besides what I have heard of that game I just don't think games should intentionally incorporate too many features from a single game. In fact, I'm all for games trying not to copy from each other, but originality is hard to come by these days and some comparable features are inevitable. Still, I'd rather see ideas not directly copied from another game that can work for this game. For example, in the case of combating RMT (which is why this thread was made in the first place), simply add a little extra kick to reporting rmt, such as enough reports from different people temporarily suspending the account reported against. SE can then investigate the incident and if it's legit can permaban and if it isn't legit can take action on the false reporters. About 50 reports should suffice to help prevent abuse.

[Krotoan]

Why am I against multiple suggestions coming from WoW? Well besides what I have heard of that game I just don't think games should intentionally incorporate too many features from a single game. In fact, I'm all for games trying not to copy from each other, but originality is hard to come by these days and some comparable features are inevitable. Still, I'd rather see ideas not directly copied from another game that can work for this game. For example, in the case of combating RMT (which is why this thread was made in the first place), simply add a little extra kick to reporting rmt, such as enough reports from different people temporarily suspending the account reported against. SE can then investigate the incident and if it's legit can permaban and if it isn't legit can take action on the false reporters. About 50 reports should suffice to help prevent abuse.

You've never played WoW then? Surprising. What game is failing miserably?
There are common features that will always end up being needed in MMO's that involve certain features such as Gear or Currency or Cosmetics. Economy management isn't something you can just hipster it out and say well WE are doing this differently because .. different! It's VERY important you find something that works and looking to functioning models is great way to do so. Admittedly what constitutes functional is subjective. What some accept , others may find bitterly failing.

In the case of RMT, I am against putting ANY method of directly suspending people in players hands. It gets abused by large groups. Just takes one reddit post and poof Knightly Knighterson can't play today cause 50 people out in reddit land believing some crusader for "justice" and their hastily cobbled together collection of "proof". According to another thread, this has already happened in the case of Shirogane (savage), people got reported en masse in the hopes they'd lose their house or at least get suspended till the demolition timer expired. We have proven already we cannot be trusted with that power, though for full disclosure, I've yet to see someone post in the actual forums a personal account of this happening.

I'm of the opinion that the Gil for Cash trade will always be there, the sellers will always find a way around it. It's easy and effective to take a large chunk of it AWAY from the sellers though and put the money in the devs pockets instead where it might benefit us. If you don't like the WoW example then how about Wildstar? There are a few other games doing it as well, but I've never played them so I couldn't begin to tell you if it's working or not with any sort of authority.

[Eli85]

People really need to get off the "It was in WoW and therefore it's bad!" shtick. At this point it just makes you look really foolish.

I would love a token system in this game, but I doubt we'll see it.

[Baci]

Really simple. No.
If someone cant afford the monthly sub, then you have other problems in your life than a Game

[DeaconMoore]

People really need to get off the "It was in WoW and therefore it's bad!" shtick. At this point it just makes you look really foolish.

I would love a token system in this game, but I doubt we'll see it.

Played WoW, EvE, EQ2, all with tokens. It does nothing to combat RMT or botting. In WoW, botting got worse after it's introduction.

Tokens really don't add anything to the game worthwhile for the player. They just turn players into a resource to be exploited.