Bring you A and S Game V achievment has created toxicity in the community.

[Deceptus]

Before these achievements and the mount was added to the game, most players would wait for a sizable group to take down A and S rank hunts.

Now people pull extremely early.

This is a direct result of adding a mount to an achievement that requires tons of grinding. It also doesn't help they put Mythic Clan Mark logs on Centurio Seals as well.
It has quickly turned into kill the mobs as fast as you can and don't care about anyone else.

IMHO this was a bad idea by the development team.

[Joe777]

The achievements and mounts honestly do not impact early pulling. Early pullers only care about their own time and would do it regardless of what is at stake. Otherwise there is no reason to not wait since by the time you hunt all the A-ranks the first one might not be back yet and S-ranks definitely aren't gonna be back.

[Robert_Ilcri]

Honestly its still stupid to have a mount behind a time lock. S ranks only spawn every now and then, yet you need a ton of them just to get the tiger... doesn't help people who have to work/have other things in real life to do. I know they wanted to give things to the hardcore hunters and all, but the tiger mount people have been requesting for ages was just kind of... eh.

[Unease_Lemming]

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But are you doing anything to spawn the S ranks? Since you're on behemoth I know the situation you're talking about, and I know just how many people complain about early pulls when they never do anything to help spawn a single S rank.

Often I'll spawn something, announce, wait 2-3 minutes, it gets pulled then killed, and people will complain about the pull. They always do, ever since hunts existed, the complaining has existed, this achievement has changed nothing.

Basically this boils down to, work on spawning/finding more, and you'll find you'll have this issue significantly less.

[Jas710]

Early pulling was around way before the achievement was added. The ratio between early pullers vs those who wait hasn't really changed, imo. You'll still run into the occasional a-hole. If it bothers you, one method you might consider is to research which linkshells that person is getting the hunt calls, and drop them if you are in them. If it's from relays, same thing.

Hunts are a flawed system, which has been mentioned over and over and over again, but SE thinks they did a brilliant job. So take matters into your own hands the best you can.

[Jas710]

Basically this boils down to, work on spawning/finding more, and you'll find you'll have this issue significantly less.

Also, this.

[Niqote]

Are you actively hunting down the hunts yourself or just waiting to hear when other people find them? No one has a 'right' to hunt mobs except the hunter/s but we have fostered a community that shares them.

The achievement is not effected by an 'early pull' and people tend to 'early pull' the lvl -60 hunts because they will not get decent credit if there is 200 people and it dies in one cool down.

Simply put, the 'early pulls' are because we are too powerful for them. After all, you can easily solo older hunts.

[Theodric]

It depends on the server, honestly. On Cerberus there's still the occasional selfish player who will pull something very early but in the vast majority of cases I've seen between 50-100 players wait for about five minutes before pulling and take the time to invite people into groups so that they stand a better chance of getting full credit. The people in charge of the hunt based linkshells I am in also do a great job at kicking those who pull early.

I do agree that the system is rather flawed though and that it's questionable to lock the mount behind such a painful achievement. Especially when the mount was created specifically in response to a lot of people asking for it to be added to the game. Most of those people will never get their hands on it.

[KageTokage]

This was as much of an issue on my server before the achievement was released as it is now.

And as people stated, if you're serious about getting the achievement, then search for and spawn the hunts yourself to ensure you're there on time.

I really do think they ought to make the achievement easier to get, though, whether by lowering the requirements or increasing S rank spawn rates.

[Endeleon]

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Often I'll spawn something, announce, wait 2-3 minutes, it gets pulled then killed

I think you are being impatient, tbh. I spawn and search for A/S a lot. I wait 5 minutes, because 2-3 minutes doesn't give people enough time to get there. The announcement get disseminated=1-2 minutes over various LS and FCs. People finish up their business=Give 30s-1m. People tele to nearest aetheryte= 10s-30s. Travel to area= usually about 1-2m. That's 4m30s on average. You are not waiting long enough, unless you only care about yourself, and are just announcing for bragging or to throw off "you didn't even announce it!" drama. Anyone after 5m, tough luck. But yeah, when I was on mateus, I still had complainers. But now I'm on Tonberry/Valefor and everything is gravy. And we don't even bother with shouting LOL, only pf. You just aren't waiting long enough.