Bring you A and S Game V achievment has created toxicity in the community.

[Deceptus]

Before these achievements and the mount was added to the game, most players would wait for a sizable group to take down A and S rank hunts.

Now people pull extremely early.

This is a direct result of adding a mount to an achievement that requires tons of grinding. It also doesn't help they put Mythic Clan Mark logs on Centurio Seals as well.
It has quickly turned into kill the mobs as fast as you can and don't care about anyone else.

IMHO this was a bad idea by the development team.

[Joe777]

The achievements and mounts honestly do not impact early pulling. Early pullers only care about their own time and would do it regardless of what is at stake. Otherwise there is no reason to not wait since by the time you hunt all the A-ranks the first one might not be back yet and S-ranks definitely aren't gonna be back.

[Robert_Ilcri]

Honestly its still stupid to have a mount behind a time lock. S ranks only spawn every now and then, yet you need a ton of them just to get the tiger... doesn't help people who have to work/have other things in real life to do. I know they wanted to give things to the hardcore hunters and all, but the tiger mount people have been requesting for ages was just kind of... eh.

[Unease_Lemming]

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But are you doing anything to spawn the S ranks? Since you're on behemoth I know the situation you're talking about, and I know just how many people complain about early pulls when they never do anything to help spawn a single S rank.

Often I'll spawn something, announce, wait 2-3 minutes, it gets pulled then killed, and people will complain about the pull. They always do, ever since hunts existed, the complaining has existed, this achievement has changed nothing.

Basically this boils down to, work on spawning/finding more, and you'll find you'll have this issue significantly less.

[Jas710]

Basically this boils down to, work on spawning/finding more, and you'll find you'll have this issue significantly less.

Also, this.

[Endeleon]

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Often I'll spawn something, announce, wait 2-3 minutes, it gets pulled then killed

I think you are being impatient, tbh. I spawn and search for A/S a lot. I wait 5 minutes, because 2-3 minutes doesn't give people enough time to get there. The announcement get disseminated=1-2 minutes over various LS and FCs. People finish up their business=Give 30s-1m. People tele to nearest aetheryte= 10s-30s. Travel to area= usually about 1-2m. That's 4m30s on average. You are not waiting long enough, unless you only care about yourself, and are just announcing for bragging or to throw off "you didn't even announce it!" drama. Anyone after 5m, tough luck. But yeah, when I was on mateus, I still had complainers. But now I'm on Tonberry/Valefor and everything is gravy. And we don't even bother with shouting LOL, only pf. You just aren't waiting long enough.

[Unease_Lemming]

I think you are being impatient, tbh. I spawn and search for A/S a lot. I wait 5 minutes, because 2-3 minutes doesn't give people enough time to get there. The announcement get disseminated=1-2 minutes over various LS and FCs. People finish up their business=Give 30s-1m. People tele to nearest aetheryte= 10s-30s. Travel to area= usually about 1-2m. That's 4m30s on average. You are not waiting long enough, unless you only care about yourself, and are just announcing for bragging or to throw off "you didn't even announce it!" drama. Anyone after 5m, tough luck. But yeah, when I was on mateus, I still had complainers. But now I'm on Tonberry and everything is gravy. And we don't even bother with shouting LOL, only pf. You just aren't waiting long enough.

I'm not pulling any of the hunts I spawn, I said 2-3 minutes is how long it takes on average for someone else to decide to pull.

[Endeleon]

I'm not pulling any of the hunts I spawn, I said 2-3 minutes is how long it takes on average for someone else to decide to pull.

Oh, then why are you defending them? They stole your spawn... that's a huge no no on JPN servers. Get blacklisted quick.

[Unease_Lemming]

Oh, then why are you defending them? They stole your spawn... that's a huge no no on JPN servers. Get blacklisted quick.

I wasn't defending the pullers, either. If I had my way, we'd let everyone with any interest arrive, I really have no issue with waiting. That's just not something that's going to happen on NA servers, or Behemoth at least, there will always be an "early" puller.

My entire point really just is that over years of spawning hunts it's been very consistent that the people that whine about hunts, and missing out on hunts, are generally the ones that put in the least amount of work themselves. Those are the people I have real issues with.

[Theodric]

Oh, then why are you defending them? They stole your spawn... that's a huge no no on JPN servers. Get blacklisted quick.

I'm not surprised. Japanese players seem to be a lot more respectful when it comes to these sort of things. A lot of people on the North American and European servers do not realise or care how much time and effort goes into causing S ranks to spawn - so it's particularly irritating when someone responsible for spawning one gets screwed over because of an early pull. It's just less common on some worlds than others.