Should SE sell Gil (similar to WOW Tokens)

[Mavrias]

What about RMT spam? If WoW also still have RMT spam, then that featue is broken.

Oh, man. It's almost like the token system is useful in more than one way and that while WoW still has RMT trade, tokens lessen it significantly and WoW GMs prevent it from being advertised in game and investigate out of game reports and sites.

My fiancé does not pay for anything in WoW with actual money. Not our subs, race changes, name changes, or faction changes. All of it is paid with in game currency, and its very convenient for our wallets.

I know y'all on the forums have some weird hate for WoW for whatever reason, but its been around much longer than ffxiv and ffxi, and is wildly successful, pretending that ffxiv wouldn't benefit from taking ideas and concepts from WoW (or that it hasn't in the past lol) is frankly ridiculous.

[Lazaruz]

I know y'all on the forums have some weird hate for WoW for whatever reason, but its been around much longer than ffxiv and ffxi, and is wildly successful, pretending that ffxiv wouldn't benefit from taking ideas and concepts from WoW (or that it hasn't in the past lol) is frankly ridiculous.

Oh I'm not pretending.

I saw first hand just how badly the WoW token inflated the player market when it got introduced, because now people had a powerful incentive to spend as much time as possible gathering a veritable fortune in ingame currency, because of the ability to save real money spent on subscription. And the whole thing went south from there.

The WoW token is even part of the reason why I in the end quit the game, as it drasticly overinflated the player market, and made things almost impossible to buy unless you did serious currency grinding. Something I pray I'll never have to see happen to FF14, as I genuinely feel the only people this would benefit are those that are hardcore crafters and/or gatherers, who only do dungeon or story content outof necessity.

Just because FF14 lifted some ideas from WoW, and because WoW is generaly considered the king of MMO's, it doesnt mean everything WoW did ever is automaticly the best idea

[Mavrias]

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I've never claimed everything WoW ever did is the best idea. I'm referring to the people saying the word "WoW" should be banned from the forums and the like.

The markets were thrown out of wack for a month or two at the most before restabilizing as the GMs and devs made adjusted and regulated and players changed their prices as the hype died down. This is basic economics.

It doesn't exclusively benefit crafters and gatherers in WoW so its highly unlikely if implemented properly, that it'll do so in ffxiv, although I do question why you're singling out people who may not enjoy dungeon or story content.

Who it will benefit is people who don't have a lot of real life money to spare.

[AngelCheese77]

The markets were thrown out of wack for a month or two at the most before restabilizing as the GMs and devs made adjusted and regulated and players changed their prices as the hype died down. This is basic economics.

<....> Who it will benefit is people who don't have a lot of real life money to spare.

Wait, wait. Players don't set the price of WoW tokens. The game does.

The gold price for these tokens on the AH is not set by players--it is set via an internal algorithm. It will automatically increase and decrease based on supply and demand. You cannot choose what price you want to list the token for or the duration of the auction. All tokens for sale in a region will be sold for the same price at a particular moment.

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In EverQuest and EverQuest 2, players did can set prices for tokens, so that is why it can be vastly different from server to server.

So that brings up a question: Would people rather have PLAYERS set the price of a token on the MB, or the GAME set it?

And no, tokens can benefit anyone really. Those with RL money and those low on it. I've seen it work and I've even used them too.

How many people here who posted actually used or bought tokens? Or are just going from what they've read? Honestly curious.

[Mavrias]

Wait, wait. Players don't set the price of WoW tokens. The game does.

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In EverQuest and EverQuest 2, players did can set prices for tokens, so that is why it can be vastly different from server to server.

So that brings up a question: Would people rather have PLAYERS set the price of a token on the MB, or the GAME set it?

And no, tokens can benefit anyone really. Those with RL money and those low on it. I've seen it work and I've even used them too.

How many people here who posted actually used or bought tokens? Or are just going from what they've read? Honestly curious.

I was referring to the prices of everything else on the market.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Oh, man. It's almost like the token system is useful in more than one way and that while WoW still has RMT trade, tokens lessen it significantly and WoW GMs prevent it from being advertised in game and investigate out of game reports and sites.

My fiancé does not pay for anything in WoW with actual money. Not our subs, race changes, name changes, or faction changes. All of it is paid with in game currency, and its very convenient for our wallets.

I know y'all on the forums have some weird hate for WoW for whatever reason, but its been around much longer than ffxiv and ffxi, and is wildly successful, pretending that ffxiv wouldn't benefit from taking ideas and concepts from WoW (or that it hasn't in the past lol) is frankly ridiculous.

This is incorrect. FFXI released 2 years before WoW did.

[Mavrias]

This is incorrect. FFXI released 2 years before WoW did.

Warcraft forst released in 1994. Predecessor to WoW, and from which much story context, background, and gameplay elements come from.

[Vaer]

Warcraft forst released in 1994. Predecessor to WoW, and from which much story context, background, and gameplay elements come from.

If we're gonna go grasping for straws that hard, Final Fantasy I released in 1987.

[Istaru]

Warcraft forst released in 1994. Predecessor to WoW, and from which much story context, background, and gameplay elements come from.

The original Final Fantasy first released in 1987. Predecessor to FFXIV, and from which much story context, background, and gameplay elements come from.

Your turn, do your homework next time.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

Warcraft forst released in 1994. Predecessor to WoW, and from which much story context, background, and gameplay elements come from.

... And final fantasy was released in 1987 but this and what you said is irrelevant because they were completely different games.

Edit: I mean the wow predecessors were rts, gameplay they couldn't be more different from wow. At least previous ffs were rpgs.