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  1. #211
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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    There is a reason someone told you I was up in arms over this thread and you continue make it WORSE!
    I'm making it worse? I was talking to other people in this thread about the salvager. YOU initiated this conversation by replying to me about my post towards someone else.

    So that is why I said don't reply to me, in order to avoid this because I noticed you either don't pay attention to what I say or you ignore it and it causes these problems, but you ignored my request and continued to reply and no matter how many times I tried to tell you I am on your side about needing glam log and needing improvements for inventory you just kept repeating the same thing and arguing that I must be against improvements just because I appreciate the salvager.

    So please do not try to shove all the responsibility onto me and pretend you did nothing at all to fuel this. Don't reply to people if you are afraid of a disagreement or if you are just going to blame them for making it worse for simply replying to your initial contact.

    You probably should avoid the forums if you get "up in arms" and this frustrated over different opinions or having a disagreement. At this point you realize it is affecting you negatively but you continue to come here and post. You are doing this to yourself. It is not my fault that a simple disagreement can cause you this much distress.
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    Last edited by Miste; 10-19-2017 at 04:27 AM.

  2. #212
    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Princess Sakura
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    I'm making it worse? I was talking to other people in this thread about the salvager. YOU initiated this conversation by replying to me about my post towards someone else.
    No:
    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Don't bother to reply to me if you aren't going to read everything I said on the matter.
    You are maxing it worse, you twist my words for no reason, you keep bending the truth on what happen, please drop it...

    as you said, do not bother to reply to me if you are not going to read what I am saying.

    This is not a simple disagreement, you are harassing me. Different views are fine till one tries to jam opposing view down someone's throat with insults, like what magic mal first did in the first post they made here. You had problems understanding anything I said past that post you made. I am in distress because you continue to belittle me because you do not understand what I am saying, and I do not understand why you do not. All I know is that you are because your replies don't allin with what I am trying to say while you unknowingly? or doing it knowingly? twisting my words around. I dislike when people do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Please explain how I am "harassing" you? I never uttered a single insult towards you at all. I simply replied to your replies and tried to explain multiple times my opinions.

    My opinions are not harassment. They are just my opinions. Like I said you kept saying "you think like this" and I kept saying "no I don't think like that; I actually think like this" and explained.

    If you didn't want to listen you can simply put me on ignore list and stop replying to me.
    This:
    I guess I will never mention the calamity salvager ever again because if I do I am somehow automatically against making a better system or against improvements. My bad.
    That is a passive/ aggressive statement based on either, not understanding me, or full well known word twisting, and the "harassment" comes in play now because you will not drop it and get off my case.
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    Last edited by Snow_Princess; 10-19-2017 at 04:37 AM.

  3. #213
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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    This is not a simple disagreement, you are harassing me. Different views are fine till one tries to jam opposing view down someone's throat with insults, like what magic mal first did in the first post they made here. You had problems understanding anything I said past that post you made.
    Please explain how I am "harassing" you? I never uttered a single insult towards you at all. I simply replied to your replies and tried to explain multiple times my opinions.

    My opinions are not harassment. They are just my opinions. Like I said you kept saying "you think like this" and I kept saying "no I don't think like that; I actually think like this" and explained.

    No one can "force" their opinions on anyone else. You can simply not listen and/or stop replying.

    If you didn't want to listen you can simply put me on ignore list and stop replying to me. I am not upset about our encounter, but obviously you might be so again I am not harassing you or forcing anything. You can simply ignore me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    That is a passive/ aggressive statement
    That bit of sarcasm because you ignored three times in succession when I, and my boyfriend even jumped in, to correct you that you misunderstood me was not passive aggressive. It actually manifested due to you simply 100% ignoring what we clarified to you that I never said that the system as it is now is fine just because the salvager is there. It is a slightly cheeky annoyance at best which is understandable when you get ignored three times when posting clear explanations.

    So no I was not intending to be being passive aggressive nor was I harassing you. I am clarifying this to you right now so you can stop taking this to heart and stop being distressed over it.

    Simply replying on a forum to a person who replies to you is not harassment though. I am sorry, but it's not. You are free to keep replying to me as I am free to do the same. If you can claim I am harassing you just by replying to you then I could say the same thing to you since you keep replying to me as well. It just doesn't work that way.

    I suggest you simply don't reply to me anymore if it upsets you. Ignore list is an option as well which I may use in this case as well. It's too bad since I like seeing other player's opinions on things so I rarely use ignore list, but if it has to come to that then that's that.
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    Last edited by Miste; 10-19-2017 at 05:05 AM.

  4. #214
    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 90
    No one is harassing you. Neither of us even harassed you... We didn't call you any names... what is going on..

    Did other people call you a hoarder and what not? Yes! Those are technically insults, name-calling. Did we call you a hoarder? No.. Yet your energy is focused on us two to the point you had to mention me in a post to her. What's the problem?? I've been civil this entire time despite all the things you've said about my "way of life".
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 10-19-2017 at 04:45 AM.

  5. #215
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    SilverObi's Avatar
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    This is like almost every thread Princess starts and probably why she stopped posting from her main -shrug-

    Though to be fair, this is how a lot of frequent posters respond when their issues are presented with counterpoints. It's probably best to let this thread drop since it's no longer a productive conversation. To make this relevant to the topic...inventory issues suck, but proper inventory management is a necessary skill for games like this. Even the games that do it right don't expect you to hold onto everything. I do my crafting in big chunks cause I don't like keeping mats on my retainers so I sell off the overflow on top of the finished products.
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  6. #216
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    Istaru's Avatar
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    M'telihgo Feilyon
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I think she lacks the ability to see the world from outside of her own viewpoint, even if those views are shown/explained to her. Many people can't do it, it is not meant as an insult.

    Sadly, people like that cannot accept contrarian data into their world view, they lack the tools to dissect it, analyze it and use it to challenge their own views. They cannot accept challenges to their world view either, they are right simply because they feel they are right and that is all that is needed. All other data points must be rejected and destroyed.
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  7. #217
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    N'yuuki Nekohmi
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    Holy balls this train went off the rails.

    Anyway, +1 for some type of glamour log. I do hoard some gear because, we all know glamour is the true endgame! XD

    I'd love to put more things in the Armoire or even have them on the Salvager. I hate buying glams (NPC glams from store) and not having a place to put them except my retainers. They're ilvl 1 whites for pete's sake. @_@
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  8. #218
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    +1 for glamour log.

    Even if they only start out with all the gear that is purchased via tomestones. Its at least a start.
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  9. #219
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    Glenfiddich's Avatar
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    Kitty Valentine
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    ... we all know glamour is the true endgame!
    If this is true then it almost does not exist anymore. Not many things have been added that are worth glamouring.
    Be it for Crafters, Dungeons, Raids or the Cash-Shop. At least in my Opinion.

    Anyway, +1 for Glamour Log
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  10. #220
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    DarkDedede's Avatar
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    Red Cork
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    Anyway, +1 for some type of glamour log. I do hoard some gear because, we all know glamour is the true endgame! XD
    Wish the designer dev types at SE would have gotten that memo. This latest batch of glamour recipes look like low level hempen/cotton gear. Not exactly something I would pay millions of gil for (not that that's stopping anyone from attempting to sell it for that much).
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    "Fun comes first. If it isn't fun, you're doing it wrong." -Naoki Yoshida

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