Inventory issues still exist. Why keep adding gear to the game and not room? Glam log

[Vaer]

Just because you are fine with it, doesn't me others are. it is barely functional.

What are you even going on about. She just said that you can toss some things because of an NPC not that we don't need a log because we have it and not that it's better than a log. Some people in this thread are just blind raging at this point after reading one sentence. No where did she say the system as it is now is fine.

[Snow_Princess]

What are you even going on about. She just said that you can toss some things because of an NPC not that we don't need a log because we have it and not that it's better than a log. Some people in this thread are just blind raging at this point after reading one sentence. No where did she say the system as it is now is fine.

You are basically saying you are making your self immune to be commented on just because you said "But where did I say you can't request something better"

I want to have a conversation? I want to see the game improved?

[Miste]

Just because you are fine with it, doesn't me others are. it is barely functional. You are basically saying you are making your self immune to be commented on just because you said "But where did I say you can't request something better" You being ok with it, or stating such does not help the cause of those that want it changed.

Well my boyfriend decided to clear that up nicely but I will say it again...

No you are incorrect. I said not to reply if you are going to be so blinded by disagreement with me to a point of being obstinate. How can you have a conversation if you don't actually read what I said?

All I said was "at least we have the calamity savager instead of nothing" because despite it's flaws it does help us all save space. So to me yes, complain about no glam log I even said I agree with this; I want a glam log too, but you probably don't even know that because you are blinded by your idea that you -THINK- someone is disagreeing with you.

I only said that we shoudn't complain about the salvager because at least we have it. We can and should ask for improvements and more options yes for sure, but don't be ungrateful for what we do have because this could happen....

I mean would you rather have nothing? I'd like to see what would happen if tomorrow SE comes out and tells us all we have to rebuy everything from the calamity salavger if we want to keep those items because they are removing him and you have no other option anymore. Like I said it is better than having nothing until we get more and better options which I also want.

I want to have a conversation? I want to see the game improved?

Did you even read what he wrote? He clarified what I meant and you still don't understand?

I mean seriously. I mentioned the salvager to help someone save space which is what this thread is about. I guess I will never mention the calamity salvager ever again because if I do I am somehow automatically against making a better system or against improvements. My bad.

[Snow_Princess]

Well my boyfriend decided to clear that up nicely but I will say it again...
No you are incorrect. I said not to reply if you are going to be so blinded by disagreement with me to a point of being obstinate. How can you have a conversation if you don't actually read what I said?

All I said was "at least we have the calamity savager instead of nothing" because despite it's flaws it does help us all save space. So to me yes, complain about no glam log I even said I agree with this; I want a glam log too, but you probably don't even know that because you are blinded by your idea that you -THINK- someone is disagreeing with you.

I only said that we shoudn't complain about the salvager because at least we have it. We can and should ask for improvements and more options yes for sure, but don't be ungrateful for what we do have because this could happen....

I mean would you rather have nothing? I'd like to see what would happen if tomorrow SE comes out and tells us all we have to rebuy everything from the calamity salavger if we want to keep those items because they are removing him and you have no other option anymore. Like I said it is better than having nothing until we get more and better options which I also want.



Did you even read what he wrote? He clarified what I meant and you still don't understand?

I mean seriously. I mentioned the salvager to help someone save space which is what this thread is about. I guess I will never mention the calamity salvager ever again because if I do I am somehow automatically against making a better system or against improvements. My bad.

Why are you twisting around what I say and go off some tangent extreme? There is nothing wrong with telling someone about what the savager was, and a year ago? maybe less? I did not even know. The savger has all kinds of problems and it is CLOSE to having nothing at all as you possibly can get, same with the armour. It is basically "hidden" from view and it is anti-new player. Despite pointing this out AGAIN, you still did not comment on that, and the same REASON you had to explain it to someone here.

It is far fetched to imply I should be grateful for a broken feature because "at least we have something" if you want to talk about blind, that is as well, blindly accepting what is given to you. ...
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I am actually confused with this bit "I only said that we shouldn't complain about the savager because at least we have it" and you said you welcome a glam log... that means you fully accept it is not enough, thus you are not 100% satisfied with it. ... this goes with my point in the last few posts, you are basically defending your self people have no right to talk to you about this because of the catch 22 you created. Makes no sense.

Also the savager has confusing menus, it really is not enough and barely over the line of having nothing, as someone else pointed out as well.

I feel the need to point this out again

Yes, I do agree that having an option is a good thing and I do appreciate them for what's it worth. However, this shouldn't stop us from pushing to request for a better solution. Here's hoping it would arrive sooner than later. /pray

Back on topic, OP and the other group should hakuna matata a little. I understand that you're trying to make your point but this is turning into simply throwing insults at one another. Can we just drop everything and agree that having a fully functional major QoL upgrades (like glamour log, tackle box, gardening box, etc) would benefit most, if not all players irregardless if they are experiencing any inventory management issues?

Conversations like this is not helping the discussion on what needs to be addressed and what can be done to improve it. (I do not know what hakuna matata is exactly but I understand what is being requested)

[Vaer]

Why are you twisting around what I say and go off some tangent extreme? There is nothing wrong with telling someone about what the savager was, and a year ago? maybe less? I did not even know. The savger has all kinds of problems and it is CLOSE to having nothing at all as you possibly can get, same with the armour. It is basically "hidden" from view and it is anti-new player. Despite pointing this out AGAIN, you still did not comment on that, and the same REASON you had to explain it to someone here.

So first of all the salvager is meant to replace items that can't be obtained again. That's one of it's original functions. People just use it to save space since it allows you to toss things.

It is far fetched to imply I should be grateful for a broken feature because "at least we have something" if you want to talk about blind, that is as well, blindly accepting what is given to you. ...
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I am actually confused with this bit "I only said that we shouldn't complain about the savager because at least we have it" and you said you welcome a glam log... that means you fully accept it is not enough, thus you are not 100% satisfied with it. ... this goes with my point in the last few posts, you are basically defending your self people have no right to talk to you about this because of the catch 22 you created. Makes no sense.

Also the savager has confusing menus, it really is not enough and barely over the line of having nothing, as someone else pointed out as well.

Are you even reading anything? Where did she say you can't complain about the log. She didn't. She just mentioned that you can use it to free up space and that's it. Not that you can't complain about the log because it is there. Don't know where you're even getting that from.

[Avatre]

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So I looked at the calamity salvager last night, and can now go through all my gears that I have, and get rid of a whole lot of them....when I get the chance this weekend. Thank you for pointing that out to me.

[Miste]

I am actually confused with this bit "I only said that we shouldn't complain about the savager because at least we have it" and you said you welcome a glam log... that means you fully accept it is not enough, thus you are not 100% satisfied with it. ... this goes with my point in the last few posts

You are definitely confused and that is because you do not understand what I am saying.

How can I be "blindly accepting what is given to me" when I actively said that "we can and should ask for improvements and more options"?

I don't know why I have to repeat this again but -at least- the BASE of the salvager system is there instead of nothing. We can and should ask for improvements to it and even more options like glam log.

We can and should ask for improvements and more options yes for sure

You are driving people away who actually agree with your main idea just by not paying close attention or ignoring what is being said and trying to argue simply over misplaced assumptions. I never said I was 100% satisfied? So of course I want improvements. Just because the salvager helps me some doesn't somehow make me against improvements or a glam log and I keep explaining that to you. I am simply grateful for having -something- that helps a bit instead of -nothing- at all while we campaign for more improvements to glamour and inventory.

I seriously do not know how to be more clear of my opinions here.

The reason this conversation started is because you keep throwing the same thing at me like "you must be against improvements because you mentioned the salvager and/or appreciate it" or telling me "just because we have it doesn't mean we can't ask for improvements to it"

I told you multiple times you were wrong about me and misunderstanding what I was saying and that I agree that I want improvements and also that we should ask for improvements, but you still seem to think I am against improvements just because I said at least the salvager exists.

Again I am not somehow against improvements just because I mentioned the salvager so you are arguing with me for literally no reason.

You just keep telling me the same incorrect assumption about my stance no matter how many times I correct you. /shrug

You either aren't reading or aren't understanding what I am saying so might as well just end it here.

So I looked at the calamity salvager last night, and can now go through all my gears that I have, and get rid of a whole lot of them....when I get the chance this weekend. Thank you for pointing that out to me.

You're welcome. I am glad it is helping you. I know it has helped me a lot for saving space as well.

[Snow_Princess]

You are definitely confused and that is because you do not understand what I am saying.

How can I be "blindly accepting what is given to me" when I actively said that "we can and should ask for improvements and more options"?

I don't know why I have to repeat this again but -at least- the BASE of the salvager system is there instead of nothing. We can and should ask for improvements to it and even more options like glam log.



You are driving people away who actually agree with your main idea just by not paying close attention or ignoring what is being said and trying to argue simply over misplaced assumptions. I never said I was 100% satisfied? So of course I want improvements. Just because the salvager helps me some doesn't somehow make me against improvements or a glam log and I keep explaining that to you. I am simply grateful for having -something- that helps a bit instead of -nothing- at all while we campaign for more improvements to glamour and inventory.

I seriously do not know how to be more clear of my opinions here.

The reason this conversation started is because you keep throwing the same thing at me like "you must be against improvements because you mentioned the salvager and/or appreciate it" or telling me "just because we have it doesn't mean we can't ask for improvements to it"

I told you multiple times you were wrong about me and misunderstanding what I was saying and that I agree that I want improvements and also that we should ask for improvements, but you still seem to think I am against improvements just because I said at least the salvager exists.

Again I am not somehow against improvements just because I mentioned the salvager so you are arguing with me for literally no reason.

You just keep telling me the same incorrect assumption about my stance no matter how many times I correct you. /shrug

You either aren't reading or aren't understanding what I am saying so might as well just end it here.





You're welcome. I am glad it is helping you. I know it has helped me a lot for saving space as well.

Does not go with:

Don't bother to reply to me if you aren't going to read everything I said on the matter.

but don't be ungrateful for what we do have because this could happen....

Ill just use your words since you are refusing to understand mine. I am driving people away because people twist my words and misrepresent what I say? As soon as inventory issues are fixed I am NEVER posting on the forums again, the toxicity is mind boggling.

[Mholito]

I have one simple question: Who are you to demand the game changes to suit your playstyle, when you do not put in any effort to change your playstyle to work with the game as it currently is?

[Snow_Princess]

I have one simple question: Who are you to demand the game changes to suit your playstyle, when you do not put in any effort to change your playstyle to work with the game as it currently is?

lol i did, I tried with alts and such, because the game makes it alt unfreindly (MSQ blocking) requring GC chest to trade your alts, that load slow as hell, and the fact you can't alt rare/ex items, yeah its the game's issue giving soo many roadblocks. How can you say I did not, when I have.. for 4 years? or so. inventory space has been an issue since HW because they gave us so many new materials, gear, items, and 4 jobs, remember we did not get anything extra with ninja being released. SB's inventory expansion is something we should of got in HW, and we should have more now.

Who are those people to demand harder content then savage and other things we got? even though that fits .1% of the player-base. Also a lot of people do want a glam log sooo...

How do you assume I did nothing to "adjust"? game has too much items and not enough room for them, that simple.