Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
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I'm not sure if you're forgetting or not but the Balance nerf also came with a huge buff to Spear, not to mention the welcome change to AST gameplay overall that is not fishing for one specific card all the time. To say that that overall update to AST was not a net gain is just disingenuous.

WHM issues before 4.0 basically locked it out of raiding, I cannot count the number of PFs I'd seen excluding WHM from their comps. The idea that only a small percentage of players are speedrunners may be true but the mentality of speedrunners bleeds over into the less hardcore side of the game very quickly. If everyone on youtube and twitch starts going AST/SCH that is going to become the PF standard again which is not something I look forward to.

Also for the people bringing up the idea of double WHM groups having trouble with certain fights how would a double SCH group fair in some of those scenarios? I feel like it would be pretty similar in super healing intensive fights - either the SCHs need to both be very good and coordinate with the rest of the group or you're going to have a bad time.