Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Avatre]

Is this LotA or Weeping City? I have to know.

I believe WoD...but could be LotA. Weeping City doesn't have Atmos that you need to stand on platforms for, as far as I can remember.

[Jade3173]

I believe WoD...but could be LotA. Weeping City doesn't have Atmos that you need to stand on platforms for, as far as I can remember.

LotA you can for sure wipe if people don't stand on the platforms. Weeping City does have them it's when Ozma swallows you, not sure about the wipe there but don't think it'd be any different than LotA. Oddly enough, the ones from WoD are the ones I assumed the person was talking about as well.

[Texa]

Is this LotA or Weeping City? I have to know.

Labyrinth of the Ancients, yeah.

I've been used to wiping Tower Climbing 24 mans a lot since they added the roulette, but in my two years of playing the game I had no idea that was even a thing that could happen there.

[raela]

To add onto this....

Dear ASTs, if you are paired with a WHM use Nocturnal Sect and if paired with a SCH use Diurnal Sect. It's not rocket science.

As a main AST when I play WHM sometimes I swear every single time I have gotten an AST cohealer lately they use Diurnal. Like...WHY? Shields are great jeez. Irks me to no end.

I main SCH. In my experience, shields are unnecessary in most if not all content I'd DF as AST for (roulettes). Hell, I don't use them much in the non-Savage raids. I would much rather leave a HoT ticking away than worry about reapplying a shield, so I will go Diurnal without shame. The rare times I've gone Nocturnal instead, the cohealer has been a useless floor tank and I've been left missing HoTs.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Had a rather... odd thing happen just the other day. I queue into leveling with a friend on Dark Knight and we get Cutter's Cut. Since it's a fairly easy dungeon, I drop Grit and pick everything up without it. We have no aggro issues and my HP barely moves. After the third or so pull, the healer chimes in about my pulling without Grit and I mention I won't need it unless I go bigger pulls; which I planned to do after, with Grit on then. She abruptly leaves right after I reply. No response but apparently my not using tank stance despite no issues whatsoever was enough to irk her.

Afterwards, we got a replacement and proceeded along without Grit no problem. Just never seen someone get uppity in the baby dungeon whenever I do that.

[MoroMurasaki]

Cutter's Cry shenanigans

I'm like 99% sure your DPS on WHM in Cutter's Cry is a Stone and a single target Aero... but yeah, tank, lose 20% DPS when you actually have some form of AoE.

I mean I am clearly a proponent of healers getting to DPS but damn.

Sorry you had to tank through that, glad you got it resolved quickly!

[Miste]

I main SCH. In my experience, shields are unnecessary in most if not all content I'd DF as AST for (roulettes). Hell, I don't use them much in the non-Savage raids. I would much rather leave a HoT ticking away than worry about reapplying a shield, so I will go Diurnal without shame. The rare times I've gone Nocturnal instead, the cohealer has been a useless floor tank and I've been left missing HoTs.

Sorry, but some content not having shields hurts.

Susano Normal hits surprisingly hard and three times recently I've had an AST paired with my WHM who uses Diurnal instead of Nocturnal.

Shields really help on him because his tank buster hits very hard and who knows what pants on head tank you'll get. I am not saying the tank not using cooldowns is the ASTs fault but simple fact is the AST could have seriously helped more if they had gone Nocturnal. His AoE also hits pretty hard and shields help especially if other players are making mistakes and getting water vulns.

So yeah sorry not going Nocturnal with a WHM is just not optimal. You are forgetting situations where not everything is going 100% with mistakes etc and depending on the content. I am not going to rally against an AST going diurnal in something where it 100% doesn't matter, but there are times it does.

[MoroMurasaki]

Sorry, but some content not having shields hurts.

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I am not going to rally against an AST going diurnal in something where it 100% doesn't matter, but there are times it does.

I had a Shinryu (normal) run like this lately. I was on WHM but 2 DPS and both tanks were new. My AST cohealer went Diurnal and long story short we wiped because tanks didn't stack or properly mitigate Ahk Morns.

I asked her to go Noct and leave the AoE healing to me the second time around. It certainly put more strain on both of our MP supplies but through dilligent Aspected Benefic uses supported by some of my oGCD heals we kept those silly tanks up so they could keep soaking damage.

When you think about it a shield is just a frontloaded regen in that situation. There are most definitely lots of times that shields can save the day.

[SaitoHikari]

Sorry, but some content not having shields hurts.

Susano Normal hits surprisingly hard and three times recently I've had an AST paired with my WHM who uses Diurnal instead of Nocturnal.

Shields really help on him because his tank buster hits very hard and who knows what pants on head tank you'll get. I am not saying the tank not using cooldowns is the ASTs fault but simple fact is the AST could have seriously helped more if they had gone Nocturnal. His AoE also hits pretty hard and shields help especially if other players are making mistakes and getting water vulns.

Pretty much. In Dun Scaith, if the Queen's LB bar got too high, your party was not going to survive without shields. Same case for the chariot boss in Rabanastre. Woe is the party that gets two WHMs as their healers...

[Lakhi]

To add onto this....

Dear ASTs, if you are paired with a WHM use Nocturnal Sect and if paired with a SCH use Diurnal Sect. It's not rocket science.

As a main AST when I play WHM sometimes I swear every single time I have gotten an AST cohealer lately they use Diurnal. Like...WHY? Shields are great jeez. Irks me to no end.

Agreed... Unless you're passive aggressive jerk like me, and you're trying to get the WHM to catch the hint that they need to be doing better at their job