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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    You should not need 8 retainers at all. I have 2 retainers and one of them uses over 100 of it's slots on GC turn in gear. The other one holds all my glamours and every dye I ever got my hands on. And I still have plenty of space You need to work on your management and organization. I can't stop you of course but you don't need every item in the game for every second. You should hold what you need.

    Plan. lol
    do you play every job in the game tho , that sounds easy to do if you play one or two jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    do you play every job in the game tho , that sounds easy to do if you play one or two jobs
    They do not, and loadstone is proof of it. Not even a crafter and maybe a casual gather.
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    Do we really need to go through this again? -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
    Do we really need to go through this again? -_-
    until SE comes up with a solution, yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    I remember reading some time ago that SE's answer when some people asked for more retainers was that most players do not have any more than the two retainers we all get for free, so they were not planning on letting us hire more retainers.
    Or in other words: Most players do not have serious inventory problem.
    Flawed thinking. I have a serious inventory problem, just no money to pay extra sub fee just to have extra retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Inventory and retainers do indeed overflow if one keeps everything and hoards it "just in case".
    If one doesn't do that and instead just keeps the stuff you really need or expect to need within the next few days, then inventory issues practically disappear.

    I remember reading some time ago that SE's answer when some people asked for more retainers was that most players do not have any more than the two retainers we all get for free, so they were not planning on letting us hire more retainers.
    Or in other words: Most players do not have serious inventory problem.

    Only a few, those who are much into both crafting and glamours (or just hoarders on general principles) have serious problems with inventory space.
    Personally I do belong to this group and would love to have more space, but on the other hand I realise could probably throw away half of what I have stored and not really miss it so the problem might not lie with the game as such.
    (I always tend to end up with full inventories in all other games as well....)
    If this would be true, than why is there so much overload on server bc of inventory? After the +40 inventory space bonus Yoshi sayd they cant add more free space bc of the overload on the servers are too big. So man can argue bc of the glamours (mostly) and craft/gath. Or SE lied to us lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    8 retainers is not enough due to these issues, something needs to be done. The game has way too much item bloat.
    Im talking about "general idea" of what SE thinks how they solve the issues. Just brute force. I know not even with 100 vendors would solve the problem. Bad game design.
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    Last edited by Akor; 10-14-2017 at 05:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    until SE comes up with a solution, yes
    I don't mean bringing up this topic, I meant these response:

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Stop hoarding gear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Then get those gloves again.
    It's very easy to just stop hoarding gear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    You should not need 8 retainers at all. I have 2 retainers and one of them uses over 100 of it's slots on GC turn in gear. The other one holds all my glamours and every dye I ever got my hands on. And I still have plenty of space You need to work on your management and organization. I can't stop you of course but you don't need every item in the game for every second. You should hold what you need.

    Plan. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
    Now this is actually a valid point which pardon me if I'm wrong, wasn't brought up at all in this thread until now. I agree that with new space there will be people finding more stuff to fill it up and return to square one. A balance has to be struck at some point, but currently I think we are too far titled on the other end. There are standards in terms of what can be achieve in the aspect of inventory space. SE has given the option to access to more stuff (one character, all jobs) but fail to keep up with the other competitors in terms of effective methods to save space. Examples have been listed by other users in the thread. People keep mentioning that players should work on inventory management, I agree, but I also think SE should work on efficiency to reduce memory footprint and item bloat.

    Eh... no. To be honest, most of the post are more along the lines of "this isn't a problem for me, hence it isn't a problem" than whatever you're trying to claim. Once again, inventory management is important, but it's not the final solution for everyone. Yes, there are extreme hoggers that keep even the damn strand of hair a random NPC dropped just because reasons, but I believe it's safe to say that they are the minority. However the rest of the players who decided to dip into every single piece of content provided by the game shouldn't be punish in terms of convenience when other competitors have already proven solutions are possible for said situation.

    Just take a look at how the stuff from kupo store and special event which cost real life cash can't even be stored into armoire or repurchase from NPC (aka hogging inventory slots) and tell me that you honestly believe with all your heart that there is seriously no intentional inventory bloat going on in the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Inventory and retainers do indeed overflow if one keeps everything and hoards it "just in case".
    If one doesn't do that and instead just keeps the stuff you really need or expect to need within the next few days, then inventory issues practically disappear.
    Look no further than youkai medals (granted this can be re-farm, but the burden of sanity weights heavy for some players) and gold chocobo feathers. With so many occassion when SE recycle old currency/items after a good amount of time down the road, I don't think it's fair to put all the blame on the players.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    I remember reading some time ago that SE's answer when some people asked for more retainers was that most players do not have any more than the two retainers we all get for free, so they were not planning on letting us hire more retainers.
    Or in other words: Most players do not have serious inventory problem.
    And then there are players who refuse to get more retainers because they are simply disgusted by the fact of renting inventory space in a subscription base game. So they rather vote with their wallet and suffer the inconvenience instead.

    I must say though, OP why didn't you just necro your previous thread instead of starting a new one?

    Also, to be fair, we did get a couple new options to reclaim some precious slots in 4.1. There's still a long way to go but I believe in giving credit when it's due.
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    Last edited by SokiYagami; 10-14-2017 at 05:45 AM.

  9. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
    Also, to be fair, we did get a couple new options to reclaim some precious slots in 4.1. There's still a long way to go but I believe in giving credit when it's due.
    Yup, those 1500 ventures now sit nicely in my currency tab(I had nothing else to spend my GC seals on...and I always used greed on dungeon drops to try stuff for different glamours).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    until SE comes up with a solution, yes
    This, +1
    Quote Originally Posted by Akor View Post
    Im talking about "general idea" of what SE thinks how they solve the issues. Just brute force. I know not even with 100 vendors would solve the problem. Bad game design.
    So true

    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Yup, those 1500 ventures now sit nicely in my currency tab(I had nothing else to spend my GC seals on...and I always used greed on dungeon drops to try stuff for different glamours).
    and I did, lol, but they need to know it is not enough and just a start
    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post

    I must say though, OP why didn't you just necro your previous thread instead of starting a new one?
    4.1 changes
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    Last edited by Snow_Princess; 10-14-2017 at 05:57 AM.

  11. #30
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    Can always just gather the mats as you need them. Didn't take my FC long to gather the 1200ish logs, 500ish ore and so on for the housing crafts.
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