Black Mage

[Ferrinus]

Unless the stars align and you can do one specific thing inside a really specific scenario, Blizzard IV is not a dps loss so be careful assuming it just is. Doesn't mean Blizzard IV and Umbral Hearts aren't a bad mechanic, because they are. It barely rewards you anything while making your rotation tighter inside buff timings.

I thought 5xF4 was a small but definite dps gain and its only drawback was that you had to use B4->6xF4 every so often regardless just to buy Foul charge time. Did the math get corrected or am I remembering something wrong?

[Kabooa]

I thought 5xF4 was a small but definite dps gain and its only drawback was that you had to use B4->6xF4 every so often regardless just to buy Foul charge time. Did the math get corrected or am I remembering something wrong?

I think it swings one way or another based entirely on MP ticks.

Which, suffice to say, is real !@#%ing dumb.

[TsuKoj]

I thought 5xF4 was a small but definite dps gain and its only drawback was that you had to use B4->6xF4 every so often regardless just to buy Foul charge time. Did the math get corrected or am I remembering something wrong?

It's a dps gain if you don't have to wait for a mana tick before casting thunder 3 and you can foul that ui phase. Or if you can immediately foul, and you time thunder 3 so that it casts before the last mana tick so you can go back to af with full mp. In other words, it's a gain if you have thunder cloud or if you have really good timing on your mana tick. It's a loss otherwise since you'll lose a fire 4 next af.

[zuzu-bq]

I thought 5xF4 was a small but definite dps gain and its only drawback was that you had to use B4->6xF4 every so often regardless just to buy Foul charge time. Did the math get corrected or am I remembering something wrong?

Only if you can guarantee a Foul after that all. It's not absolute. And to guarantee it you need MP tick manipulation and a natural Thunder proc. That's why I said "if the stars align".