Selling Runs and Clears

[Kanitezz]

I’ll see ads in PF about FCs selling raid clears, and tanks and healers selling ques. I see em pretty often so I assume people are actually buying them?

My guess is desperation. I can maybe understand wanting to get faster roulette ques, but buying savage and ex clears? Isnt that the type of content you want to clear with a static or friends or even a learning PF group? Ya know cheer real loud when you guys finally get it?

I dont care how many tries it takes, i’ll be damned if im paying anyone my glamour funds to carry me through content.

EDIT: Guys I wasnt tryin to downplay anyone. Trying to understand really. I guess from MY perspective its pretty ridiculous when I have like 120k on average. It IS their gil I get that much. But personally I wouldn’t have a sense of accomplishment after the clear, AND my pockets would probably be empty.

[Ayer2015]

This has existed since ARR launched.

[Jendor]

This. I will dance happily the day they outlaw and terminate runsellers accounts. There is zero difference between a runseller and rmts. They are both exploiting cheaters.

[Skivvy]

This. I will dance happily the day they outlaw and terminate runsellers accounts. There is zero difference between a runseller and rmts. They are both exploiting cheaters.

How is selling and/or buying a run equal to cheating? It's providing a service. It's just like all the thousands of crafters and gatherers who "take advantage" of people who are either unwilling or unable to obtain what they need on their own. This game has very few gil-sinks in place, and the result of that is people tend to have large amounts of disposable gil on hand to toss at whatever they want.

[Vahlnir]

This. I will dance happily the day they outlaw and terminate runsellers accounts. There is zero difference between a runseller and rmts. They are both exploiting cheaters.

I'm not a fan of run sellers either, but you are comparing apples to oranges. They aren't cheaters either...some might be, but who knows. People have been doing this sorta thing since forever...long before XIV came into being. If people want to spend their gil this way then that's their prerogative. Nothing wrong with it if that's their thing.

[Kerwin]

This. I will dance happily the day they outlaw and terminate runsellers accounts. There is zero difference between a runseller and rmts. They are both exploiting cheaters.

RMT = Real Money Trading
In game run sellers = In game gil only.

No difference huh?

[SuperZay]

RMT = Real Money Trading
In game run sellers = In game gil only.

No difference huh?

The problem is many content buyers use RMT to afford insane carry prices, and content sellers know all about it but have 'no questions asked where you got your 200 millions gil without any crafters or gatherers leveled' policy. So in a way, such activities promote and encourage RMT.

[Shihen]

The problem is many content buyers use RMT to afford insane carry prices, and content sellers know all about it but have 'no questions asked where you got your 200 millions gil without any crafters or gatherers leveled' policy. So in a way, such activities promote and encourage RMT.

That's reaching quite a bit. By that logic, anything that costs insane amounts of gil without running a background check on players promotes and encourages RMT.

[dotsforlife]

The problem is many content buyers use RMT to afford insane carry prices, and content sellers know all about it but have 'no questions asked where you got your 200 millions gil without any crafters or gatherers leveled' policy. So in a way, such activities promote and encourage RMT.

The problem with this statement is not having any proof of that. Easy to make a blanket statement (though I would not doubt there are cases of it). In my experience, at least from what I see on my server, it's the heavy crafters/gatherers (much like yourself) who are paying for these because they can't be bothered to do it themselves. And hey, with plenty of gil sitting around, why not? Gil isn't hard to make in this game (even 200mil).

[BigRed5392]

The problem is many content buyers use RMT to afford insane carry prices, and content sellers know all about it but have 'no questions asked where you got your 200 millions gil without any crafters or gatherers leveled' policy. So in a way, such activities promote and encourage RMT.

not true. it is easy to save up the game throws gil at you. a fc mate of mine put a 5K gil limit on his character every time his gil went over, they would put it on their retainer till they got 5K in 2 days they saved up 500K just from quest rewards, fates.