nobody is concerned mages are losing half their spells?

[zaviermhigo]

"Fifteen actions and eleven traits will be made available for each class up to level 50" thats straight from the "class reforms" page.


I think CNJ will get: cure, curaga, protect, shell, stoneskin, raise (rebirth might be treated like a tier here). Now there are enough room for the nukes, but after that not enough room for the dot's attached to them, so I'm confused about where they will go with nukes, elemental dots, and AM. now abilities will have to go under reform too, i'm sure we'll at the very least keep exaltation/tranquility, they could take out a lot of spells, maybe even give cnj some spells from thm, split up bio or dia, but they probably won't much at least in my opinion, I don't have verification.

With thm: scourge and banish. Bio and dia. get rid of absorbs but keep drain and siphon mp. keep paralyze, slow, and silence, get rid of bind and blinds (make them better and give them to whm and blm)

for both thm and cnj they will at least retain 1 ws, hopefully give us a new one someday! I'm not sure if they will retain sac for thm either :/ i hope they do for the back up cures. I'd love to keep poison also. There's a lot of spells I'm on with them taking away for now though and trying to make more potent and then giving to blm/whm. Especially bind, blind, and other less used enfeebles and anti enfeebles like the "a's" ex: poisona, AM and the elemental dots could be taken off and give to blm, but I'd like for cnj to retain at least the original nukes.

traits. now i'd love to see traits get a total overall, be more like xi's with Fastcast having tiers traits please instead of just making up 11 traits with 6 of them being useless.

[Vandark]

Woh that sounds queer as, glad I'm not a mage or I'd be PISSED! Still sucks big time tho because I would have liked to role mage as well but now I kinda don't feel like it reading about this....

[Inaaca]

Woh that sounds queer as, glad I'm not a mage or I'd be PISSED! Still sucks big time tho because I would have liked to role mage as well but now I kinda don't feel like it reading about this....

Jumping to conclusions much? We haven't even seen the changes that mages are getting yet. All this talk is largely speculation.

[Anon]

The thing that concerns me is that it's not that we're getting 15 spells, we're getting 15 abilities total. So we still have stuff like Chainspell, Spiritsong, Soughspeak, Roaming soul, etc that I wouldn't like to lose, but just those 4 abilities would cut our number of spells down to 11.

The spells that I think will be a given that will be kept for CNJ are Cure, Curaga, Protect, Shell, Stoneskin, Raise, and Rebirth. That's 7 spells. That'd leave 4 more spells if we just got those abilities.

I just really hope that they don't do something like cutting down all of our abilities now then reintroducing the same abilities they cut as the "job-specific" abilities.

thank you; somebody who reasonably shares my concerns.

[Airget]

meh if we lose anyhting good it'll just go to blm or whm so it'll be alright .... you guys do know jobs will be advanced version of the class yea? meaning the good skills yea? you honestly expect us to keep all our current skills per class and all NEW ones brought in for jobs? lol lol lol

I find the problem with this, while I believe that abilities we have on our classes now might be on jobs, we'll have to wait another VU to get those abilities back. Depending on what those abilities are I wonder how things will roll in 1.20.

[NoctisUmbra]

You know, he was speaking generally for battle classes. I honestly would not be surprised if any elemental spell series was considered one set of spells and learned on the same rank, just as it is now.

Thus all 6 elemental nukes would be 1 level, and all 6 elemental DoTs another level. 2/15.

[viion]

I don't think nukes will count as 6 individual spells, they will just be categorized as 1. Because you get them all at once at the same level.

[Betelgeuzah]

Trimming down the fat.

[Viridiana]

You know, he was speaking generally for battle classes. I honestly would not be surprised if any elemental spell series was considered one set of spells and learned on the same rank, just as it is now.

Thus all 6 elemental nukes would be 1 level, and all 6 elemental DoTs another level. 2/15.

Except that all of your main class abilities will be on your bar at all times, and you just took up 12 slots. >_>

[Betelgeuzah]

It's pretty obvious that elemental spells will have something done to them, but they will still be in the game in some form, as they specifically used Fire as an example of a spell losing it's tiers.