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  1. #201
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    Faul's Avatar
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    Sorrento Baldarov
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by k99 View Post

    At the end of the day, it was intended to be limited and unique, not easily accessible.
    The problem I have with limited content is that they cost something which is funded by everyone. Yet a lot of those who funded the said content is blocked from it. A lottery system is more fair regarding unique, limited or exclusive content so that at least everyone had the same chance to enjoy the content they funded.
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  2. #202
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    Scardon's Avatar
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    Neiloch Forever
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DravlinKuraiyoru View Post
    I'm all for unique and limited items, a la glamour, titles, etc. Unique and limited content that I'm helping fund the creation, implementation, and support for is absolutely unacceptable.
    I wouldn't even say those are limited. Not everyone can just snatch them up as they please but there isn't a finite amount of them either. However in housing, there is. Imagine if there were only 50 BiS weapons for each class per server. Or only 1000 people could be a certain class. People always say these things could be interesting or fun on paper but in practice it has little broad appeal. That's why making things harder, require more time or resources to get, but infinite, has more appeal and its not at the expense of others missing out.

    And as people are pointing out, people who want houses but can't get them are helping pay for them. Not WANTING to take part in content is one thing, being UNABLE to is another. I think the idea of charging cash for having more than one house per account is more than reasonable if that means it can help bank roll resources to add more wards.
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    Last edited by Scardon; 10-12-2017 at 12:12 PM.

  3. #203
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    Verdan's Avatar
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    Verdan Lankost
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    Goblin
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    Carpenter Lv 70
    Lotro had auto-generation of wards when they filled up literally a decade ago.

    There is no excuse as to why housing is the way it is. They can have the social experience of a neighborhood and the ability for everyone to get a house.
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  4. #204
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 90
    It's beyond ridiculous that they didn't add more wards but can copy paste an entire expansion's worth of endgame content into a new coat of paint.
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  5. #205
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    Almagnus1's Avatar
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    Lotro had auto-generation of wards when they filled up literally a decade ago.

    There is no excuse as to why housing is the way it is. They can have the social experience of a neighborhood and the ability for everyone to get a house.
    Ironically LotRO's housing system didn't have any of the issues that FFXIV's does, had plenty of housing for everyone, and was done in an MMO that's just bad comparatively.
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  6. #206
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    Jellybums's Avatar
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    Azuko Kouen
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 81
    Just echoing a sentiment, I'm not sure what SE expects subscribers to think of paying for the development of content they'll only limit to very few. Oh, bless you, you have a house I am paying for. That's nice, while I go find a nice FC with housing that will maybe give me access to gated content. My account is new so I don't even have the gil to buy a house yet. But hearing about this problem takes some of my motivation away because I like being rewarded for playing. Also when I hear that there's plenty of gil floating around and nowhere to spend them, how sincere is this campaign against RMT I wonder.

    I believe the devs are smart enough to expect many people being disappointed by Shirogane housing. So my question to them is why? Why do you knowingly want to upset many people?
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  7. #207
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by k99 View Post
    Black Friday sales. You were either first in line, or you got trampled under the rush. That's what this was. Can't blame Walmart for the insane activity of other people leading to you not getting what you wanted.
    Here's the difference. Walmart will inevitably restock their supplies at a later time. Sure, they won't be on sale but they'll be available. Housing isn't. People can't wait three months and just pay a little more to get the house they want.
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  8. #208
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    k99's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Akira Scientia
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    Durandal
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    Carpenter Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Faul View Post
    The problem I have with limited content is that they cost something which is funded by everyone.
    I am not disputing your claim, but I am having trouble understanding what content people are blocked from. Aside from exclusive ownership, all the content of housing can be taken advantage of through other means (shared estates, join an FC with property). If you can do everything on the said property except have it directly linked to your name in the server database, what is being withheld content-wise? The friends in my FC have all the same rights as I do to the house short of being able to relinquish the property land. I do not know what content I'm getting out of it BEYOND them besides an intangible value of ownership. Nothing which brings me any physical advantage in the game or game content which only I can see.
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  9. #209
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    Matdra's Avatar
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    Diamanta Sarida
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    Jenova
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    1. Not every FC own a house. Thus they cannot use the FC workshop feature.
    2. The FC will most likely limit some of the options. Not all of them will allow the ability to modify the outside decor or use the garden.
    3. The garden from a house allow crossbreeding plants which can give items that can't be obtain anywhere else. Appartments potting don't allow it.
    4. Fc chamber and appartment are limited to interior item.
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  10. #210
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    Shanra Laenahyi
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    Siren
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by k99 View Post
    I am not disputing your claim, but I am having trouble understanding what content people are blocked from.
    You say there's no advantage to owning vs being allowed to walk on .... First off, not all FCs provide full access to all their members, so there are people out there who pay the same amount as you every month and aren't allowed to farm and get access to rare/unique experiences. Not to mention, having access to a house doesn't mean you can make it the way you want it to go. And who says "intangible" isn't still valuable? Why should I pay the same as you and still not get that benefit available to me in it's entirety? I honestly cannot comprehend how you can't see the difference between "Access to" and "Ownership of" Clearly you've never owned a house IRL. It's a world of difference to the vast majority of humans.
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