Stop asking for more wards

[RyuDragnier]

The ideas of replacing the entire housing system with instances or introducing a housing rent fee all smack of jealousy and spitefulness to me, honestly. "If I can't have it, nobody should!" is the feeling I'm getting here.

I've seen people with multiple houses on the same account with characters in the same world. How is THAT fair?

[Kyoraki]

I've seen people with multiple houses on the same account with characters in the same world. How is THAT fair?

It's not, housing should absolutely be limited to one per account, along with apartments. I don't see how it's an excuse to throw the baby out with the bathwater though. You're just proving my point, that your petition to replace the current housing system is being born out of jealousy and spite for those that managed to get a plot. I don't think I've ever seen a group of people so demonised by this community as Shirogane homeowners.

[RyuDragnier]

It's not, housing should absolutely be limited to one per account, along with apartments. I don't see how it's an excuse to throw the baby out with the bathwater though. You're just proving my point, that your petition to replace the current housing system is being born out of jealousy and spite for those that managed to get a plot. I don't think I've ever seen a group of people so demonised by this community as Shirogane homeowners.

I want the housing to be account bound per world. You have a personal house on one character for that world? It's shared among all your characters on that world, you don't get another one. Meaning you can have a house on Leviathan and Exodus, but you can't have 2 houses on Exodus or 2 houses on Leviathan.

[Kyoraki]

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So let me get this right, you don't feel like Apartments are the answer because they are lacking certain features? Then why is your solution to tear down regular housing rather than fixing the instanced housing that's already in the game? again, the attitude here is that if you can't have something, nobody can.

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Probably a little too generous, but I get where you're heading here. There's no reason why people should be able to have so many properties under one account.

[Shougun]

again, the attitude here is that if you can't have something, nobody can.

I don't speak for everyone who likes instanced housing but I see instanced housing as being fold more powerful, at least in possibility, than non-instanced housing. (A lot assumed when people say instanced housing, since technically apartments are that but I never meant FFXIV's apartments when I've said it).

WS housing miles > than FFXIV's (except visuals, lol. imo). And you can have neighborhoods now (WS). Can give players permissions so the 5 plots is worked on by much more than 5 players, each of those plots and housing being bigger than FFXIV's largest size. They (WS) could improve/make "guild" plot easier since in the current set up each plot is owned by a specific person and not an entity - not impossible to have guild set up housing though.

You simply can be far more generous to the players in terms of tools, speed of release ("Ishgard"), and visual creativity with an instanced housing system where each player get's their own area (or even for example FC housing if it was like that, with weird things you might do in GW2 and it's housing that each Guild gets is the size of a full zone - although there isn't as strong of a personal housing element).

So imo, its nothing to do with spite and everything to do with "I don't think the neighborhoods are that great*, and I'd rather have the power and utility of a personalized system". Also don't believe they have to scrap the front area (could leave it), although I wouldn't care if it was (for my own sake, I understand others may).

*(interaction in my area across my total experience of the game with strangers, on Balmung - the fullest server, aggressively approaches nil. The amount of "ghost town" greatly outshines "bustling neighborhood"). If there were specific people you loved (or FC) sharing your moments with I strongly believe you'd be better taken care of in a WS like neighborhood anyways where you could work with them on a far more intimate level while still each having a house of your own.

Then again I like to remind of LotR since their system is incredibly similar to FFXIV's (and older) but also doesn't have a limited problem since the wards auto-generate when full.

More powerful personal system > current system - strictly imo. I don't have a urge to utterly remove the current one, but I don't care to see it exist as much as I care to see a new "better" (imo) system in it's place.

[Paladinleeds]

So let me get this right, you don't feel like Apartments are the answer because they are lacking certain features? ... again, the attitude here is that if you can't have something, nobody can.

First of all, I already have it. So no, it's not "if you can't have it, nobody can" from me. I even listed my plot, and on what server. Attributed to this character too, if ya wanna verify my claim. Ya barking up the wrong tree there with me.

Secondly, apartments aren't the answer with the limited features. Of course, I am open for fixes, but look at the problems with them, and then use that to find the fixes for them. I'd be OK with them fixing the problems with apartments. In other threads I've even given possible fixes for the FC housing problem (airships and Company Workshop for the most part). I mean heck, even make instanced housing for FCs an addition rather than a replacement if it comes down to it.

My problem is with the gameplay features that require housing that apartments don't cover. I think instanced is the best way to fix it, but I am open to fixing the current system if it is possible. I just aren't convinced it is.