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  1. #61
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    Final-Fantasy's Avatar
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    Katharine Kusakari
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    Golem
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    Warrior Lv 100
    It comes down to money, so, add a third ward selection to the current page, So we'd have: Plots 1 to 30, Plots 31 to 60 (as we currently have with Wards 1 to 12) now add Plots 61 to 90.

    Make the page with Plots 61 to 90 only purchasable with a new service from the Mog Station, set up like the retainer service so you select an available Plot from the list, depending on size you could charge players like $2 extra per month for a Cottage, $4 for a Medium and $8 (just example) for a Mansion, once a ward is full the next opens up. This will make it so each plot will get used, people that just want a plot will get one for however long they pay, if you stop paying you loose access to it and its added back to the pool to buy.

    Please don't go on about how its not fair, some of us pay more than that for a bunch of retainers. Its called options, 10.000.000 players and only 190.080 house plots total in this game across 66 worlds. Why this isn't even an option, just imagine the revenue this could make. You don't have to use any services, its your choice.
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  2. #62
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    Sigul's Avatar
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    Tyki Mikk
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    It comes down to money, so, add a third ward selection to the current page, So we'd have: Plots 1 to 30, Plots 31 to 60 (as we currently have with Wards 1 to 12) now add Plots 61 to 90.

    Make the page with Plots 61 to 90 only purchasable with a new service from the Mog Station, set up like the retainer service so you select an available Plot from the list, depending on size you could charge players like $2 extra per month for a Cottage, $4 for a Medium and $8 (just example) for a Mansion, once a ward is full the next opens up. This will make it so each plot will get used, people that just want a plot will get one for however long they pay, if you stop paying you loose access to it and its added back to the pool to buy.

    Please don't go on about how its not fair, some of us pay more than that for a bunch of retainers. Its called options, 10.000.000 players and only 190.080 house plots total in this game across 66 worlds. Why this isn't even an option, just imagine the revenue this could make. You don't have to use any services, its your choice.
    I almost never post on forums, but this made me want to.

    Excuse me but, why should someone pay real money for something everyone else got cause they got lucky for free? What kind of a solution is that?

    Everyone is paying the same sub, thus everyone should get the same fair treatment as long they put the same effort. Housing is a feature that they advertise, which means everyone should be able to get a house once they meet the conditions required for it, in this case pay gil. What you are suggesting is just them cashing out on a problem they created themselves. It's like next level fraud. If you wanna make housing for real money, then it's only fair that ALL housing should be for real money.

    They don't wanna add more wards cause of server? Then remove all the features that the housing offers which are Workshop, gardening, Vendors and so, put those things in instanced area that everyone can access and use. Now that would make the only reason you want a house is just purely a place you wanna hangout at and decorate.
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  3. #63
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    Xelanar Fhey
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    Shiva
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    I would happily pay for a plot if I had a chance to. I'm still hoping for a system comparable to what they did with apartments, only for houses of different sizes, maybe even including a small front side for gardens. I don't need my house to be outside in the open for everyone to see. It's nice, sure - but not mandatory.
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  4. #64
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    Sam West
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    I would pay only if the paid houses have improved features
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  5. #65
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    Katharine Kusakari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigul View Post
    Excuse me but, why should someone pay real money for something everyone else got cause they got lucky for free? What kind of a solution is that?
    Well for a start its an idea for people who actually don't care to pay, its a choice.

    Its a solution as they need more money to have more equipment to handle this system? if not, then go a head and add more Wards?

    It wouldn't affect you either way as you wouldn't be paying as your not interested in that kind of system.

    What if this system was in place and i decided to release some of my houses, and I own multiple houses on multiple characters, and elected to then pay with my subscription the extra cost, that would free up some plots for others to buy with Gil for example.
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  6. #66
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    Aelin Alvered
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I second OP. This has gotten out of hand, the more people debate on the issue the higher the chance they'll hear us.

    But lets be honest, we'd get more out of recruiting NA players that know Japanese to translate all the poignant threads and messages and stick it in the japanese forum imho.
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  7. #67
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    Calene Ntor
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by LathyrusLoon View Post
    My fc has been saving up since last year. Enough for 4 of us to try this morning. We were on right at the start. Did it help? Of course not. What did I hear in shouts not even 5 minutes after every plot was grabbed? Our large we wanted so much being advertised for 300,000,000 gil. That's over 6 times the price. That son of a bitch never wanted the plot. They just wanted to hurt other players.

    I'm so frustrated and angry on behalf of my fc that worked so fucking hard for this. They deserve better. The players in general deserve better.
    I feel bad for you.

    But, that's capitalism in a nutshell. You probably could have negotiated him to whatever you had since you had 4x the cost (Something like 200M?)

    Of course, it's also bannable. Watch that plot closely, I doubt he sold it. If he's trying to flip it then it's bannable and he can be reported, then the plot will be demolished.
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  8. #68
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Idk, everybody (SE and customer knew for about half a year now, that the 720 plots won't be enough for every player, especially with moving feature introduced.
    Everybody knew that only 720 people max will get a new house way before yesterday.
    Everybody knew it's like a lottery.

    This feels a bit like complaining towards Apple at Iphone Release Day because everything is sold out, although they stated 6 months in advance that they can only produce 500 pieces.

    Sure, the housing system might need to be altered... but raging after the only possibel outcome everyone knew about arose..
    is like accepting the current system but just being upset because it was one self being unlucky and not someone else.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 10-11-2017 at 08:15 PM.

  9. #69
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    Sammix87's Avatar
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    Fina Kisne
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    Zodiark
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Wysteria View Post
    I'm not really angry about people having personal house, but I'm upset with the fact that this content is inaccessible by a lot of players.
    This is really the only reason I am slightly miffed about housing. I would have loved a plot in Shirogane but I had other commitments that meant I couldn’t log in once the servers went live after maintenance. In the end as Shirogane was full (by 12pm GMT) I opted to buy a small plot in the Lavender Beds which will suit me just fine as I can share it with a couple of friends.

    However, I have friends who play this sporadically around jobs, kids, caring for elderly relatives etc and in one case even being an overworked social worker. I do feel like it’s a shame that people who cannot currently get a house might never be able to own one at all because of the awful way the system has been set up.

    I play on Zodiark, went around all the housing wards looking for an empty plot and yesterday was the first time in at least 6 months I’ve actually even seen an empty plot. I just feel for the people who want a house and can’t get one =/
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  10. #70
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    Tyki Mikk
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    Well for a start its an idea for people who actually don't care to pay, its a choice.

    Its a solution as they need more money to have more equipment to handle this system? if not, then go a head and add more Wards?

    It wouldn't affect you either way as you wouldn't be paying as your not interested in that kind of system.

    What if this system was in place and i decided to release some of my houses, and I own multiple houses on multiple characters, and elected to then pay with my subscription the extra cost, that would free up some plots for others to buy with Gil for example.
    Are you kidding me? F2P games that had housing had been able to create a better system for housing and had server running fine. SE is basically charging you for extra retainers, selling tons of cosmetics on mog station, skip potions "catch up with friends (lol)", boost potions, and now even retainers potions! Not to mention all those campaigns they did that I'm pretty sure by what I saw, it got them tons of money.
    Do I want a house? hell yea I do. Do I have one? Nope and I refuse to pay x10 the price to someone to get a house as I should be able to pay the same as they did to get theirs. Would I pay money for a house? Nope, I already pay them sub and I bought some stuff off mog station. I think I supported them enough based on my budget.

    The only thing that MIGHT make me consider paying for a house is if I can get it right after payment, it's permanent and I won't lose it, pay only once, and I can customize EVERY little detail of it and is bigger than L size.
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