Incentivise tanks and healers to actually play the game please.

[magnanimousCynic]

Also, implying 4man content is anything more than a lunchbreak W+1 fest.

Just because the 4-man content isn't challenging shouldn't mean that balance should be thrown out the window.

And if this change did happen and the dungeons got rebalanced, you would have a higher probability of getting underperforming DPS in your parties, indirectly making the dungeons take longer. Would you want that?

[Kabooa]

Just because the 4-man content isn't challenging shouldn't mean that balance should be thrown out the window.

And if this change did happen and the dungeons got rebalanced, you would have a higher probability of getting underperforming DPS in your parties, indirectly making the dungeons take longer. Would you want that?

I carry 3 people as is. What's 2 more?

[winsock]

How about this: if you run a leveling roulette on a capped job, instead of receiving tomes or clusters you get a consumable that grants 50% percent of the exp required for next level that can be used on any job. So you could run the roulette on a tank for the quick queue, but then use the consumable on your DPS. You get a fast queue, plus exp on your DPS.

I'd be down for pretty much anything so long queuing as a max tank is, at a minimum, just as efficient at leveling a dps class.

At that point, I'm sold. I like playing tank more than DPS classes anyway, so as long as I'm not out XP, I'd absolutely be willing to queue as tank.

[Zojha]

Just because the 4-man content isn't challenging shouldn't mean that balance should be thrown out the window.

Balance? What balance? You can literally clear dungeons without a tank as is. I bet a healer and tank could 2-man the current dungeons without much issues. What balance are you talking about, man? There is none!

[whiskeybravo]

How about this: if you run a leveling roulette on a capped job, instead of receiving tomes or clusters you get a consumable that grants 50% percent of the exp required for next level that can be used on any job. So you could run the roulette on a tank for the quick queue, but then use the consumable on your DPS. You get a fast queue, plus exp on your DPS.

This might deserve a thread on it's own. Sold.

[ColeSlawter]

What about a new special exp scroll that gives a healthy bonus to exp. The only way to obtain this scroll is as the AiN role for leveling. This scroll should be significant (not the 3%, 15%, 20% etc from other scrolls/food/fc actions) ... something like another 50% boost and it should stack with all the rest.

I just busted myself out for not reading thread. You win Naberrie.

Another thought would be to offer another scroll that is purchasable with the outdated tomes. Something that gives another small boost to exp but, again, is stackable with the rest of our consumables. This doesn't fix the queue times but if you use enough items then it can alleviate the number of instances you have to run as dps. If you're foolish enough to burn those on easy queue roles instead of dps, well ... can't fix stupid.

[Marveth]

I can't think of anything that would make me give up XP bonus on a class I'm leveling.

Ok so I'm just throwing idea's here but what if doing a roulettes on a 70 job had a separate lockout from a non 70 job. That would allow you to queue lv70 tank and once thats done you can do it as the DPS you are leveling?

[Anienai]

Give fates higher xp rewards for dps only.

[Jas710]

I would queue as tank more often if there was any value for doing it as max level, but as my tanks start maxing, I add to the problem, queuing as dps more frequently so that my DPS roles can benefit from the roulette xp.

If I could queue as tank and transfer that XP to an alt in some way, maybe via a consumable item, I'd be running far more roulettes as tank.

That is not a bad idea. Give consumable xp items that can be obtained only while on your tank, and can be used only on your non-tank jobs. Granted, an argument could be made of players not learning their dps skill set, but it wouldn't be that much different than it now is. A fair trade-off, as far as incentives go, anyway. There's still the toxic atmosphere to address.

[Anienai]

There's still the toxic atmosphere to address.

That is the main reason for the lack of tanks/healers.