Losing faith in this MMO

[Matdredalia]

That's the whole point. It boils down entirely to sheer dumb luck. Everyone who has a Shirogane house now has one because they were lucky. That's the only reason, and for a AAA game in 2017. It's absolutely pathetic. ESO, Wildstar, Black Desert, all Free to Play MMOs have a better housing system than FFXIV.

EverQuest (which is almost NINETEEN YEARS OLD), EverQuest 2, Lord of the Rings Online, RIFT, even bloody Ragnarok Online (which is pixeled and isometric graphics!)......I can absolutely keep going, but I shouldn't have to. The fact that an endless number of MMOs, all of which are now free to play, have either acceptable, on par, or mind-blowingly massive and amazing housing systems, where anyone can get a house, period, if they earn it, but FFXIV, one of only two pay to play MMOs that matter anymore, can't? Is beyond unacceptable. It's disgusting, and the devs should be ashamed for creating a system so broken, and those holding the purse strings saying they can't afford more servers for new wards should be ashamed for pushing the game farther and farther into dangerous territory by making the player base feel ignored and rejected.

I already know half a dozen players who quit completely because or partially because, of the housing issues. Now, four of them had other reasons involving Balmung's overpopulation and congestion, but the housing was a HUGE part of it.

Every time something this huge, that so many people feel so passionate about happens, where scalpers are profiting off of sheer dumb luck and our hard work, where the devs & producers blatantly ignore us and refuse to allow millions of us access to a MAJOR part of the game because of the stupidest possible reasons, they tell the community: "We don't listen to you. We don't care about you. We're going to do what we want, and you can deal with it."

And it is *pathetic.* The fact that originally? The Yo-Kai event was supposed to make the weapons super exclusive, so that you couldn't get them all, but they bent on that, okay, a CROSSOVER WITH ANOTHER SERIES NOT OWNED BY SQUARE, they decided was worth making things not-exclusive, but a HOUSE, a basic part of the game, that shouldn't be exclusive in ANY SANE WAY because you know, we're the WARRIOR OF LIGHT, is deemed "exclusive" to special people? Come the heck on.

And apartments will NEVER be an answer. The fact that they acted like they were is insane. And they're going to screw themselves by shoving their player base right out of the game.

[Matdredalia]

Dalmascus - We were expecting the launcher not to crash out on us. We were expecting the lobby server not to dump us. We were expecting to not be 100% screwed by bad tech to the point that our chances were hurt even worse, on top of the failed system. And we're tired of it, and the fact that they make a big deal out of things like this but refuse to fix the system makes us salty. Guess what? If we don't say anything, we're ensuring nothing gets done. By airing our grievances, we can at least *hope* to make some kind of change. If we say nothing? Nothing happens. And while folks can roll their eyes at us or ignore us or complain about us or gripe at us, or anything else, the fact of the matter is that us trying to change things benefits them, too. Plus, our actions, whether they be gripping the devs ears off, or canceling our accounts until it gets fixed, hurts no one.

[Aamalthea]

EverQuest (which is almost NINETEEN YEARS OLD), EverQuest 2, Lord of the Rings Online, RIFT, even bloody Ragnarok Online (which is pixeled and isometric graphics!)......I can absolutely keep going, but I shouldn't have to. The fact that an endless number of MMOs, all of which are now free to play, have either acceptable, on par, or mind-blowingly massive and amazing housing systems, where anyone can get a house, period, if they earn it, but FFXIV, one of only two pay to play MMOs that matter anymore, can't? Is beyond unacceptable. It's disgusting, and the devs should be ashamed for creating a system so broken, and those holding the purse strings saying they can't afford more servers for new wards should be ashamed for pushing the game farther and farther into dangerous territory by making the player base feel ignored and rejected.

I already know half a dozen players who quit completely because or partially because, of the housing issues. Now, four of them had other reasons involving Balmung's overpopulation and congestion, but the housing was a HUGE part of it.

Every time something this huge, that so many people feel so passionate about happens, where scalpers are profiting off of sheer dumb luck and our hard work, where the devs & producers blatantly ignore us and refuse to allow millions of us access to a MAJOR part of the game because of the stupidest possible reasons, they tell the community: "We don't listen to you. We don't care about you. We're going to do what we want, and you can deal with it."

And it is *pathetic.* The fact that originally? The Yo-Kai event was supposed to make the weapons super exclusive, so that you couldn't get them all, but they bent on that, okay, a CROSSOVER WITH ANOTHER SERIES NOT OWNED BY SQUARE, they decided was worth making things not-exclusive, but a HOUSE, a basic part of the game, that shouldn't be exclusive in ANY SANE WAY because you know, we're the WARRIOR OF LIGHT, is deemed "exclusive" to special people? Come the heck on.

And apartments will NEVER be an answer. The fact that they acted like they were is insane. And they're going to screw themselves by shoving their player base right out of the game.

Exactly this. They couldn't even figure out how to let us log back into our apartments when we log in. FREE INNs do this. But our 500,000 gil apartments can't? Man gtfo with that. EQ2 had fantastic housing and that came out in 2004. You saw it in the city when you walked by, you clicked on the door, boom your beautiful (and mine was full of pets and paintings I made) housing was right there. But you had to pay mortgage/rent for it. In a variety of ways even.

This will never change. They don't want it to change. SO we just get to sit and ride the salt wave with every expansion because they're not going to listen to us.

[VanSanity91]

Same, To be honest, I would be more than happy to stop playing this game. S-E just crushes anything I might be interested in. Only and I literally mean only thing holding me here, would be my friends (girlfriend) If they leave I'm outta here lol.

[Dalmacus]

Snip.

It's been 4 years since the start of housing! And now you deem it's the right time to ask them for changes?! Look people who didn't get the houses are salty right now, i get it but accept it and move on.

[kyomaZZ]

thank you SE, at least i dont need pay for another sub. coz i will cancel it thats for sure.
you should able to acces all content in a P2p MMO, Op. shop is also a shame but idc that i can live without some exra glamour and mount.

BUT SHIROGANE HOUSING WAS PART OF STORMBLOOD , SO THANK YOU FOR ONLY CARING ABOUT PPL WITHOUT JOB WHO CAN PLAY UR GAME 24/7 AND NORMAL WORKING PPL JUST F.O. AND PLAY UR GAME WITHOUT HOUSE
utterly disappointed

[Bacent]

Do people expect there being much of a chance to get housing in Balmung of all places?

[Alenaar]

I have felt as playing FFXIV is somewhat abusive relationship for a long time. This housing thing is a rotten cherry on top of cake made of crap. Unsubbing because I am starting to feel as supporting this company any further is in conflict with my self-respect. I thought I will have hard time picking between Overwatch event and FFXIV 4.1, one good thing SE has done - they made this decision way more simple for me.

update : just got mail advertising 4.1s HOUSING xD

[TheGrimace]

I am just going to repost this here.

Well said.

[BlairYS]

Do people expect there being much of a chance to get housing in Balmung of all places?

I dont think anyone should feel limited from getting something they want in a video game especially when this is not even hardcore raiding.