logical approach to DPS meter ingame

[Ilyrian]

It would be really interesting to see the shift in the quality of the player base if parsers were introduced. Would it improve overall or decline?
It would certainly be interesting to see the people who *think* they're dps rockstars have a wake-up call – but would that be worth sacrificing the (mostly fine) status quo of blissful ignorance?
Personally I want one, if only one that shows me what I'm achieving as a dps and if that's an acceptable place to be.

[LittleSparrow]

This won't happen. Stop asking.

The rating system someone suggested seems cool though.

[Mikazuki_Aura]

There's no need for an actual DPS number. A single icon that shows which player has the highest DPS value is all that is needed.

Without it ASTs cannot use single-target buffs like Balance effectively. If it's on and your tank is outdamaging the DPS you know there's a problem, you don't actually to know how much more damage is being done.

Precise numbers just breed elitism but the current system is nonfunctional.

Also, as for people who talk about parsers already being used ingame, you're forgetting the entire PS4 population of the game, intentionally or otherwise.

[Rawrz]

I joined the darkside from my ps4. I ended up doing a budget build with the help of my friends. First PC I've physically had to touch the hardware for to install.

Very happy with with all the extras a PC provides such as:

Being able to copy/paste links into a browser. (PS4 can copy links within FFXIV, but won't paste them into the PS4 browser.)
Being able to instantly SS something and upload with lightshot. (Instead of sending an image to yourself via PSN messages, using your phone to save those messages using PSN app, then uploading with IMGUR or other hosting site.)
Easier access to Discord than just your phone. (PS4 can't even run a cross platform Voice app. :C)
Realtime DPS/Access to FFLOGS. Its nice to see DPS and a little horrifying. Before I started using one, I was thinking I should turn it off during the encounter so I wouldn't be tempted to look at it, but honestly it has had 0 negative impact on my performance. You just have so much time each GCD to look over at it.

A friend got me a copy of Windows 10 pro for $35 and I got the rest using a list a friend helped me make. :O <3

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XkXs2R

[Vshunyi]

Parsers are definitely a slippery slope for SE, but as a PS4 player, I definitely need one. The rating system (like DMC) that the other person mentioned is pretty interesting. Another option that I think SE could implement is a damage/heals/etc table at the end of the fight similar to the one for PvP. It could show death count, damage done, and healing done. And to avoid salt coming from being ranked it could just list it in a fixed order (probably same as your party list), plus have it only appear after the clear. That way it's gonna be more of "hey we cleared and this is how we did" instead of "you're doing horrible that's why we can't clear"

[Laerune]

If SE is afraid that parsers will bring more harm then benefits to the community, why not start with a personal parser? This parser can not be shared ingame, so people are not forced to show them to the group. I would love to have SE give non PC users the option to improve their playstyle.

[Sylvain]

snip ze awesome idea

First I love the idea, but how could it be done for heal and tanks?
In the case of dps it is simple, highest potency per second while doing mechanics, some potency malus could be applied when a player is hit by a dodgable mechanic. Notably to not have dps tunnel vision just to get their last bit of potency.
On the other hand, what defines a good healer in dungeon? One may say dps but we know Yoshida doesn't really like healer dps but, at the same time, a healer having 1 action per 10sec isn't really a good healer. Potency(heal) means little as a good group would end up with a healer healing less.

[Okamimaru]

Personal non sharable parser should be the only option considered given how dps are now expected to hold back so the don't rip agro off dps stance tanks...
To SAM- your dps sucked, you suck, get better noob!
To PLD- holy shit your dps was awesome!

[bswpayton]

The solution is everyone just switch to pc hah

[Cynfael]

Personal non sharable parser should be the only option considered given how dps are now expected to hold back so the don't rip agro off dps stance tanks...
To SAM- your dps sucked, you suck, get better noob!
To PLD- holy shit your dps was awesome!

That bit about DPS being expected to hold back really isn’t a thing. Enmity skills are powerful right now, and tank stance dancing isn’t punished the way it was at 4.0 launch. If the tank is losing aggro at a roughly equivalent ilvl while the DPS are using their own enmity management skills properly, the tank has opportunity to improve.