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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    $12,95 a month?

    I don't even make that amount in a month.

    $12.95 maybe.

    Satire aside, I'm having a great deal of trouble taking the OP seriously as a consumer. It seems as if the entirty of 'the important announcement of FFXIV's Future.' was glazed over completely in the wake of 'oh my gawd, I have to pay moneyz!'

    There has been a relative bombardment of information coming out. And I'm not sure if it's an issue that the info is hard to digest, or just only looking at the game's community intermittently and just reading on some random game site the buzz about having to pay for a game still in redevelopment. But it seems like the thread creator has made his decision more out of reactive emotion than an informed and calculated one.

    I'm going to list out the answer to the most basic question here: "[I'm paying]$12.95 a month for what?"

    What you get, for sticking on, and paying the subscription fee (which looks like won't be $12.95):

    - A direct witness to the update process that will transition the engine and game mechanics from where it is now, to 2.0
    - A storyline quest events (both battle and otherwise) unique only to this transitional period.
    - Unique Gear and Achievement rewards.
    - Possible Unique mount.
    - A ready-made character at appropriate level, skills, (and quested Job Abilities) transferred directly from where you left of. (You'll be more prepared if you stay than if you go.)
    - Establishing yourself already with a community group going into 2.0

    So essentially, you're paying for a leg up for the new start, a unique story, and moments of that said story. This is on top of being on board for first feedback as the new changes roll in.

    And a small side note:

    An MMO is always in transition. There's always some features that we believe should never be in the game, or should be up to 'The Standard.' Yoshi-P has been careful in his timing that pretty much the most basic functions one would expect in the genre are there before asking for a payment, and SE's president has gone as far as to discuss a lower cost for subscription until the release.

    If your issues with the game is more fundamental in the direction it is taking, then there's no answer for you. Perhaps you are just not cut out for the MMO field or how Square Enix as a company interpenetrates that, which is fine. Please, however, do not pretend that this company is not listening to its base: That was FFXI's greatest error more than anything else in my view, and the turnabout to this policy came too late.

    The new development team is taking FFXIV in a good direction, in my opinion, and I'm willing to pay to be a part of the process, and to experience the unique story. If you don't that's fine, you're not alone. Whether or not Square Enix should place value in your self proclaimed '20 years of loyaly' is not my call to make.

    However I view as if there has been plenty of outreach on their behalf.
    OMG LOGIC, logic has no place on these forums, but joking aside this is why you are paying, when your friends come for the ps3 release and they ask omg how do i get that sexy glowing sword you can say hahahaha you cant, it is a trophy from my valiant protection of Eorzea during the dread of the 7th umbral era. Or what about "omg how do I get that mount" then you say "you cant, it was a reward from my company for destroying the Garlemald forces at the battle of Ishgard (random name cos we dont know whats coming, but a battle of Ishgard before it opens its gate would be awesome)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    OMG LOGIC, logic has no place on these forums, but joking aside this is why you are paying, when your friends come for the ps3 release and they ask omg how do i get that sexy glowing sword you can say hahahaha you cant, it is a trophy from my valiant protection of Eorzea during the dread of the 7th umbral era. Or what about "omg how do I get that mount" then you say "you cant, it was a reward from my company for destroying the Garlemald forces at the battle of Ishgard (random name cos we dont know whats coming, but a battle of Ishgard before it opens its gate would be awesome)
    then everyone who played for the first year and came back will complain and few months later they will give them it either way. i'ma be pissed if i leave or dont' do achievements cause they are pointless only to find out i lose out on a faster or better looking mount, i wants my goobie mount too. this is called paying 200bucks for a mount and i refuse to do so. but there has been full threads bout this so i'll keep it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    then everyone who played for the first year and came back will complain and few months later they will give them it either way. i'ma be pissed if i leave or dont' do achievements cause they are pointless only to find out i lose out on a faster or better looking mount, i wants my goobie mount too. this is called paying 200bucks for a mount and i refuse to do so. but there has been full threads bout this so i'll keep it at that.
    k bye, when you come back reroll on Mysidia so I can taunt you with my goobie mount, i'll choose it just for that purpose. I will also tell you about my valiant victories against the empire during the 7th umbral era and show you all my decorations from the immortal flames, oh and lets not forget the sexy gear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    k bye, when you come back reroll on Mysidia so I can taunt you with my goobie mount, i'll choose it just for that purpose. I will also tell you about my valiant victories against the empire during the 7th umbral era and show you all my decorations from the immortal flames, oh and lets not forget the sexy gear
    If past is prophecy, you better be careful what you wish for there, bucko. Yoshi-P might pull a reversal of gender rules on you and make the best Male Armor scream of 12's homo-erotica.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    If past is prophecy, you better be careful what you wish for there, bucko. Yoshi-P might pull a reversal of gender rules on you and make the best Male Armor scream of 12's homo-erotica.
    Nuuuuuuuuu Yoshi-P please please please dont go bact to that, this is the sexy gear I want, with awesome stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Nuuuuuuuuu Yoshi-P please please please dont go bact to that, this is the sexy gear I want, with awesome stats.
    >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    >.<

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    I would be invincible muahahahahaha
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    I want to be honest here. I have a feeling a lot of the people who claim they are 'long time loyal followers' of Square Enix suddenly disenfranchised by FFXIV, are either not as loyal as they claim, or is trying to use a loyalty they'll actually not sacrifice, as some sort of bargaining chip.

    You either have it or you don't. FFXIV, for the majority of Final Fantasy fans, will not even register on their radar, strictly on the basis that they don't play MMOs, or have already designated another company's MMO as their one of choice. It has little to no bearing on the actual production and sales of their console titles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    If past is prophecy, you better be careful what you wish for there, bucko. Yoshi-P might pull a reversal of gender rules on you and make the best Male Armor scream of 12's homo-erotica.
    I would be sooo up for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    I would be sooo up for this.
    bet you would.
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    my house is in rebuilding stage. this house is very small and in unpopular area.
    the roof, floors, plumbing, and gas are all broke.
    my landlord fired the original crew. for not completing the job on time
    the new crew comes in and makes all kinds of promises, and shows me pics.
    now for next year i have to wait for them to finish the job.
    should I move to a more popular, bigger house rent it for same price?
    or stay in the part of my house that is not being rebuilt. but still pay same rent as others.

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