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    Gislin-Dahl's Avatar
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    Gislin Dahl
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Content is tuned at ilvl 330

    Groups start attempting content at ilvl 320.

    Healer DPS will be required for the later turns usually until you have a month or so of tome gear under your belts. More so if your DPS aren't top notch
    99% of the game isn't at ilevel 330 (or 320). Endgame is not "the game".

    Even in endgame content you shouldn't be in a random pug expecting everyone to be prepared to clear content above their ilevel. If you're not in a random pug, why aren't you handpicking healers who match your play style?

    It's amazing that people will bitch and whine that players "ought" to be exactly as experienced, geared, and skillful as they are, while refusing to take responsibility for finding people who are exactly as experienced, geared, and skillful as they are.

    If you don't like grouping with the dirty plebs then don't take the bonus pay from DF. It's pretty simple.
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    Kira Thrinaria
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    Shiva
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gislin-Dahl View Post
    I can understand that some of you are getting "triggered" by the sometimes heated discussion, but Sebazy is one of the relaxed users and seems to be from forum experience alone an nice and helpful person. Also she/he stated just facts here and didn't made an arrogant or insulting statement or something. So pls calm down
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gislin-Dahl View Post
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    Did you really just reply to something, out of context, from 83 pages ago? And do it in a snarky way that doesn't even address the point that was being made?
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gislin-Dahl View Post
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    I think you completely misunderstood my point =o

    My comment was regarding Savage Omega and the mathematical requirement for healers to help DPS on the likes of O3S and O4S early on. This applied to both statics and pugs, naturally progression statics would be moving clear of this requirement earlier than your typical PF pug due to the higher average standard of play, but then you'll find that those healers will still be DPSing anyway. That's just the mentality that's required at that level.

    It's not meant to be a snipe at casuals or randoms, I can promise you now that I didn't get an iLvl 340 goodie bag (Or any amazon vouchers ) in my mogmail when I put my SB code in. We were all under geared at that point.

    Don't get me wrong, my static runs for an hour or two a week these days and that's that. I absolutely love raiding with randoms as it's the best way to scratch my progression itch until Super Savage hits, plus it gives a little more room for me to try different stuff. Sadly my best O4S DPS was helping a pug with 4 bonus members, I took what I learnt from that and smashed my previous best with my static despite it being an awful run on all accounts.
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