Many other jobs are getting old skills back...

[Erin_Singh]

I'm going to try one more time because I don't know how else to explain it. Let's look at drk vs. pld then. (I'm just going to go through what you listed, without even contesting them.)

Drk lost shadow wall, scourge, low blow, reprisal, dark dance, delirium. You want those 6 abilities back PLUS keeping the 4 abilities from pld and the one additional ability from role actions. 11 abilities.

Pld lost rampart, Convalescence, Provoke, Awareness. Pld gets to re-equip them with one additional. 5 abilities. (We don't get to re-equip what we lost from class...war/drk do.)


Even though all the tanks are comparable in dps. You want to hike up war and drk dps, def, and sustain. Then keep pld exactly the same and don't see that it would burry pld in terms of balance. I've already stated twice now, drk should get one extra def cd.

There is a 100 dps difference between drk and pld, and 180 between drk and war. Pld, is above drk in mitigation, dps, sustain and raid utility, and now you tell me that hiking up drk would bury pld ? I don't think so.

And we don't ask to have all of our lost skills, just some (in my opinion, a cd, and delirium OR scourge)

To give you some insight, in 3.2, There was 40 dps difference between pld and drk and 170 dps difference between pld and war.

[Gravton]

To give you some insight, in 3.2, There was 40 dps difference between pld and drk and 170 dps difference between pld and war.

That is interesting, only 40 and 170? That's not bad. So tell me, where did pld fit in the meta with only 40 under drk? How much would these abilities increase the dps of drk and war over pld? Because if its 40 or more over pld, we saw how the community treated pld in HW. Plus drk/war were essentially gods in any dungeon run. (If we're not talking about meta)