4.1 Squadrons can be party members in dungeons

[AsahinaMyLove]

Truth be told, I'm not seeing too much use for newcomers.

Before you even get to the appropriate rank for squadrons, you need to have cleared Aurum Vale (i.e. be level 47+). And then you still have to grind them up, which takes a while as well.

Maybe in another few expansions. At the moment, they'd be useful for HW dungeons at best and that's assuming a 10 level increase and the person not rushing through the MSQ.

Took me 2x 4 weeks! (I have 2 chars) till I got my WISHED Squadron Members(All female Au'Ra and Miqotes <3) and lv50 cap ;o
And I dont think some1 would wait 4weeks for a dungeon ;o

Edit: It would be great to have our squadrons in all dungeons with me! *O*
Maybe in Coils too so I can finaly finish this...? Since Soloing is impossible to clear and getting a party is like 0% chance

[dragonseth07]

Took me 2x 4 weeks! (I have 2 chars) till I got my WISHED Squadron Members(All female Au'Ra and Miqotes <3) and lv50 cap ;o
And I dont think some1 would wait 4weeks for a dungeon ;o

Edit: It would be great to have our squadrons in all dungeons with me! *O*
Maybe in Coils too so I can finaly finish this...? Since Soloing is impossible to clear and getting a party is like 0% chance

0%?

I got my clear on T12 and T13 two days ago... PF exists for a reason, bro.

[Ashua]

Am I the only one who is thinking if I wanted to play with 3 other npcs I could fire up a ff offline game? This feels self defeating and even if popular at first glance seems negative to the health of a mmo.

[NefarioCall]

Am I the only one who is thinking if I wanted to play with 3 other npcs I could fire up a ff offline game? This feels self defeating and even if popular at first glance seems negative to the health of a mmo.

I think FF14 is a great game, and i enjoy my time with it, but it is by design an offline RPG with online elements. That is, it is not FF11 or Eve etc etc. It's not genuinely online first. It's a single player offline RPG except for that your party members in battle are real people. And you can make friends with them and text with them and stuff. Now .. i don't mean to open a can of beans here, but just my thoughts on the matter.

This game won't likely ever move towards being a primarily online experience. The creation of, and long term refinement of AI is the ultimate step towards allowing this game to exist indefinitely beyond the age where its active population can support its content.

[Gumbercules]

I think people are reading too much into this one, it will at most just be for outdated content....and even within that be designed around a squadron involved system. (such as it rewards you "specifically" for a squadron use, and not being able to do something like leveling roulette without other players)

[SenorPatty]

Took me 2x 4 weeks! (I have 2 chars) till I got my WISHED Squadron Members(All female Au'Ra and Miqotes <3) and lv50 cap ;o
And I dont think some1 would wait 4weeks for a dungeon ;o

Edit: It would be great to have our squadrons in all dungeons with me! *O*
Maybe in Coils too so I can finaly finish this...? Since Soloing is impossible to clear and getting a party is like 0% chance

Unless you could control them RTS style, I don't see them doing positional mechs that are required in the final coils

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Hah I would image no 8 man content but Im wondering how far it will go could you do like the level 50 roulette, 60 roulette with them. Im just curious as to if you can do things like this with them, cause I mean for instance if I wana play a dps job and its either hey que in with people wait for 20 or 30 mins.

OR my other option is now que in with my squadron I personally would chose the squad every time over waiting for 20 mins. I think if they allow this they have to be real careful in what types of content they will allow us to run with them, because with our long on going thread about df issues I dont see why people wouldn't chose the npcs instead thats if they where worth anything they could suck haha.

They will never replace actual players because the devs aren't going to program like how we run dungeons. Squadron tanks will pull one pack at a time and healers will rarely touch cleric, if they even have it. That alone slows down the run considerably. Not to mention makes it painfully boring. I think I'd take the 15-20 minute queue.

[lujate]

Am I the only one who is thinking if I wanted to play with 3 other npcs I could fire up a ff offline game? This feels self defeating and even if popular at first glance seems negative to the health of a mmo.

I'm not a fan of of MMOs because of the multi player baggage, but they often offer solo gameplay that you can't find in offline games.

Like others have said, squadron instances will certainly be for old, irrelevant content, so I don't see it as a big threat.

[gtasthehunter]

It would be nice for the 2 Lv50 MSQ dungeons with 7 squad members where everyone just rushes it! Cause I plan to start a new character sometime on a new server just not sure what server I should start again on. and I don't want those runs to be messed up with cutscene/running, walking to catch up/cutscene... etc cause I plan to broadcast from the start of this new Character to a certain point and I don't want those MSQ runs chopped up. Or I would have to try a PF and say no rushing or skipping and will be watching cutscenes and hope no one rushes it! And I still don't' think that would even work cause everyone is in a hurry so yeah I think the squad would be good for those and others.

I'm sure I'll have to wait for them to level up too.

I also think I see more DPS using squads then Di. So then might get to a point where there are fewer DPS in queues anymore.

[Coatl]

Am I the only one who is thinking if I wanted to play with 3 other npcs I could fire up a ff offline game? This feels self defeating and even if popular at first glance seems negative to the health of a mmo.

You're not alone on this one. The more I read about the squadron update the more it feels like a waste of resources.