Sustain

[Officer_Cat]

Which Thundermarker ?
I was in Susano a few seconds ago and my pet didnt get any damage from then.

Also if you are not standing 50 yalms away from your target your pet is not really stopping attacking, also what is better 2400 mana to get your pet back + swiftcast or moving your pet for 1 second without any big dps loss.

Also there is no reason to pull him away from the boss, stand near the boss and you are fine.

( Tested it right now if you are standing in front of the boss and then go somewhere else, tell your pet to come to you and then again to attack the target and the pet is not stopping attacking.)

[Mavrias]

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The secondary hit after the target is struck. An aoe effect called "Electrocution" hits everything on the targeted half of the arena.

You sound like someone who uses Garuda, because she doesn't stop attacking as she is a ranged pet. I stand at mid range on a good deal of fights outside of stacking to allow easier recognition of who is being marked for mechanics, dealing with said mechanics, prepositioning, not bait things on the melee, not get hit with/ have to worry about melee targetted aoes, and not blind the melee when I summon Bahamut by summoning him right next to them. I am by no means 50 yalms away, but calling Ifrit to me will 1000% make him stop attacking because he is out of range.

But to answer you're question, what's better is having a sustained regen effect with which to heal my pet, seeing how unresponsive they are to commands in the first place

[Officer_Cat]

Im using Ifrit, and i say it again if im standing infront of the boss he is not stopping attacking..
And now i stop this bullshit cause we have two complete diffrent views and no one of us will ever say something else then Sustain is bad or Sustain is good.

[Mavrias]

Im using Ifrit, and i say it again if im standing infront of the boss he is not stopping attacking..
And now i stop this bullshit cause we have two complete diffrent views and no one of us will ever say something else then Sustain is bad or Sustain is good.

You're the one arguing that sustain is unnecessary despite the fact I've given you several examples where it's necessary, half of which you either agreed with or refused to acknowledge entirely. But okay dude. You choose to stand "in front of the boss" (??? This is a bad idea unless you meant "on the boss" at which point it's just an odd decision). Many other Ranged DPS choose not to as well as choose not to make things more unnecessarily clunky by constantly adjusting their pet. Their asking for Sustain isn't made invalid just cause you don't want to use it.

[Officer_Cat]

Im sorry i mean on the boss or near the boss.

I never said that sustain is the worst idea, but there right now there is no sustain and my pet is still able to survive without dps lose.

I just dont understand why so many guys want sustain.. i mean there are way worser things... titan is not able to get aggro sometimes, if you summon Bahamut, Titan is losing all the aggro.
The pet control is bullshit sometimes, is not reacting everytime, if you did one mistake or the healer is not healing you, you are losing all your Aetherflow stacks your pet and your dps is going down around 1k~.

Sustain will not change any of this problems, it is just making things better for guys that dont wanna control there pet, but thats it.

If the pet would be more responsive then it would be easier to control the pet, thats it.

[MoldyOne]

Moving ifrit like that is a dps loss. Full stop. That's a ruin 2, instead of a ruin 1/3/4, and then there's potentially having to move him off the boss entirely, which is another dps loss because he only attacks from melee range. That's even if you can actually manage to move him in the span of the GCD so you're not clipping.

There's a difference between artificial difficulty and actual complexity. Summoner is clunky enough without constantly repositioning your pet. Again, if you feel sustain makes things "too easy" then don't use it.

not to mention 95% of the time, your pet DOESNT move until AFTER it gets hit

[Mycow8me]

I'm still of the opinion that pets should function similar to bards songs... They come out for a while, do some important deeps, then summon a different one. Less time spamming ruins. Moar time actually summoning pets that do a huge chunk of damage within short spans instead of long periods.

Summoner was one of my mains in FFXI though so I'm just looking for nostalgia just wishing it was getting better treatment enough to make me want to play it. Here's to hoping in 5.0 it becomes its own standalone class or is the only class relative to arcanist and scholar becomes standalone.

[Rawrz]

Have ifrit stop attacking for 3 seconds or use sustain on the GCD, which will only heal 24% of his hp every 10 seconds... hrmmm. ._. Better off using garuda if you feel you have an incompetent party that can't do lightning markers. Start with ifrit and swift garuda as ifrit dies.

[TarynH]

Im sorry i mean on the boss or near the boss.

I never said that sustain is the worst idea, but there right now there is no sustain and my pet is still able to survive without dps lose.

I just dont understand why so many guys want sustain.. i mean there are way worser things... titan is not able to get aggro sometimes, if you summon Bahamut, Titan is losing all the aggro.
The pet control is bullshit sometimes, is not reacting everytime, if you did one mistake or the healer is not healing you, you are losing all your Aetherflow stacks your pet and your dps is going down around 1k~.

Sustain will not change any of this problems, it is just making things better for guys that dont wanna control there pet, but thats it.

If the pet would be more responsive then it would be easier to control the pet, thats it.

And none of those reasons are why I ask for Sustain to be put back in.

[Officer_Cat]

Why you ask for Sustain because you are to lazy to tell your pet onetime where it should stand ?

Sorry but many other Summoners are able to tell there pet where to stand.. why not you ?
The only reason i know why is cause someone is lazy, it is a fact that if you tell your pet where to stand like behind the boss or whereever that it is not dying.

And the dps lose is maybe 1 autoattack of the pet...
If there bring sustain back be happy if not you probably need to get your ass up and tell your pet where to stand.