Sustain

[Zfz]

actually, both RDM and SMN are Support classes, they are designed to play dps, and off heals, which means they should be comparable to EACH OTHER.

Not anymore. It used to be like this, but with 4.0 and RDM, they have changed the positioning of SMN, and that's why they consciously make Physick scale off MND only. It is clear from the Letter Live that now, at this time, in this version of the game, SMN is not supposed to be able to heal as good as the RDM.

Forget about Physick. It was nerfed deliberately. So was Sustain.

What SMN really needs in terms of pet survivability is what it should have had ever since the beginning: executing the master's commands immediately, interrupting everything the pet is doing. If I tell my pet to move, it moves immediately. This responsiveness is needed to really get the pet out of many of the shorter AOEs for which even the player needs to move immediately. Since Heel doesn't always work to avoid those AOEs (player gets out of the telegraph but the pet is just one body length behind) making the pet a lot more responsive is a necessity.

[TarynH]

You need to tank smthg ? Find a tank then (or level one), is it not a mmorpg ?

SMN has a built in tank; Titan. Sustain helped to keep that pet healed. It was useful for solo play. Maybe people who play SMN don't want to "play/level a tank," or drag a tank with them everywhere they go; because they already have one.

Yes, it is an MMORPG, but not every second of every single day. Most of the time you are doing stuff on your own. SMN had great utility to be able to do that, without having to rely on "switching to tank" as you say.

Sustain was also useful on SCH in rare situations where the pixie got hit by something. You could just give your pet a regen and focus on other things. Your pet could do the same, instead of curing itself.

They removed a useful pet healing tool, and did nothing to compensate for it. Neither raising the pets' defensive capabilities, nor increase the potency of Physick on the SMN side. It wouldn't be much of a distraction at all to put it back in. It isn't as if they have to rebuild the code for it from scratch.

[Officer_Cat]

No amount of pet control can stop them from getting hit by unavoidable damage.

What is unavoidable that hits the pet sooo hard that it needs to get a heal ?!
Just as an example If Queens Waltz is hitting the whole group u need to heal anyone with an aoe heal or whatever something like this, then your pet get heals too.

I really would like to know where your pet dies or where your pet needs your attention to heal him.

[Mavrias]

What is unavoidable that hits the pet sooo hard that it needs to get a heal ?!
Just as an example If Queens Waltz is hitting the whole group u need to heal anyone with an aoe heal or whatever something like this, then your pet get heals too.

I really would like to know where your pet dies or where your pet needs your attention to heal him.

V3S, V4S, Susano EX, any fight with a Chimera. Also, soloing fates with Titan-egi, Palace of the Dead solo, Veteran Clan B-Rank Hunts, ARR S and A ranks, HW A-Ranks.

I really would like to know why you're so against SMN's getting Sustain back or some other sort of pet heal, I'd personally prefer on oGCD.

[Kurando]

Counter suggestion to Sustain. How about an Enhanced Physick or Rouse grants the pet Auto Summon on the chance of death, without loss to the Bahamut gauge. Essentially this would mean that on the off chance the pet is getting hurt a lot and ends up dying, it is of no loss to the SMN's. DPS or MP from having to resummon it either the hard way or through Swiftcast.

The buff may help a lot in situations when the SMN dies and loses is built up Bahamut gauge and won't have to go through the hassle of building it up again through DWT. The pet would reappear after the SMN reviving animation finishes.

[Officer_Cat]

V3S, V4S, Susano EX, any fight with a Chimera. Also, soloing fates with Titan-egi, Palace of the Dead solo, Veteran Clan B-Rank Hunts, ARR S and A ranks, HW A-Ranks.

I really would like to know why you're so against SMN's getting Sustain back or some other sort of pet heal, I'd personally prefer on oGCD.

I did not cleared V3S but i saw some enrages, and if you place your pet on the "ass" your pet stays alife.
I never lost my pet when i told him where to stand, if i not tell him where to stand he is dead after the dragonphase.
I never lost my pet in Susano EX im sorry but how you do this.

Im agains sustain cause i dont see any reason in it.

I can record you any run of susano as long as i tell my pet not to stand in front of susano it is fine, i can make videos of V3S too, soloing fates with titan thats something where I agree thats not perfect, but on the others i need to say again ... HOW

[silverlunarfox]

Replace Physick with Sustain. Problem solved. Physick doesn't heal a pet efficiently. Sustain did.

[Mavrias]

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Depending on how the MT moves for lightning markers, Ifrit will be hit with them fairly often. In O3S along with dragon phase, ifrit can be hit with books and magic hammers in library as well as reaper charges. Again, dependent on where your tank is positioning the boss. Anything where you want Titan to tank for you (he needs to be buffed in general) so again, PoTD, soloing B, A, and S tank hunts, he will be taking constant damage, and likely die, because no heal. Chimeras Ifrit will pretty much always be hit by Ram's voice unless you want to take the dps loss of constantly moving him all the time forever, he is going to get hit.

If you don't see a reason for it, then don't use it, but a lot of people clearly do.

[Officer_Cat]

Depending on how the MT moves for lightning markers, Ifrit will be hit with them fairly often. In O3S along with dragon phase, ifrit can be hit with books and magic hammers in library as well as reaper charges.
If you don't see a reason for it, then don't use it, but a lot of people clearly do.

Thats things where you can move your pet
Adjusting, and you are fine.

Sustain makes Summoner life way to easy in my eyes.

[Mavrias]

Thats things where you can move your pet
Adjusting, and you are fine.

Sustain makes Summoner life way to easy in my eyes.

Moving ifrit like that is a dps loss. Full stop. That's a ruin 2, instead of a ruin 1/3/4, and then there's potentially having to move him off the boss entirely, which is another dps loss because he only attacks from melee range. That's even if you can actually manage to move him in the span of the GCD so you're not clipping.

There's a difference between artificial difficulty and actual complexity. Summoner is clunky enough without constantly repositioning your pet. Again, if you feel sustain makes things "too easy" then don't use it.