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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Awwww /comfort @Arkine

    What disturbs me even more is that this applies to DoH/DoL. Say goodbye to using Sweat of Brow on all your gathering classes, or Maker's Muse on all your Crafting classes. That's right. Preserve will only be on Alchemists from now on… Boooooo….
    Preserve / Sweat of the Brow are abilities right? I don't think they mentioned anything about them in this post, I believe "Traits" and "Abilities" are two things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuciBlack View Post
    -1 for all this.

    Traits were really nice being able to cross class them. (Fleet of Foot, Intimidation, Fastcast, Prime Conditioning, Out of Site).
    Useing all those sexy +10 and +5 stat traits on any of your 18 classes.
    The Swap abilities you were able to buy cross jobs- Although quite pointless for the jobs that could buy / wear (DoW got mage stats, while DoM got melee stats lol so we'll see)
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Awwww /comfort @Arkine

    What disturbs me even more is that this applies to DoH/DoL. Say goodbye to using Sweat of Brow on all your gathering classes, or Maker's Muse on all your Crafting classes. That's right. Preserve will only be on Alchemists from now on… Boooooo….
    Oh... I was reading the notes, then i thought of my crafting classes
    hopefully this changes only applies to battle classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NarikoStar View Post
    Preserve / Sweat of the Brow are abilities right? I don't think they mentioned anything about them in this post, I believe "Traits" and "Abilities" are two things.
    I hope you're right...

    The explanations are centered on battle classes; however, the same changes will apply to Disciples of both the Hand and the Land where the setting of actions is concerned.
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    so we will not see Fire II and ancient spell again on CNJ?
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    Interesting.
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    NO COMPLAINTS HERE...CHANGE IS GOOD...CHANGE IS EXPECTED...CHANGE IS EXCITING...<3 CHANGE.

    Everyone repeat it!!! Embrace it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    Oh... I was reading the notes, then i thought of my crafting classes
    hopefully this changes only applies to battle classes.
    I know when they first announced us being able to obtain our Guildpoint abilities you could buy via guild points was turning to level's I thought (all those people who leveled to 36 just for the rank 50 ability are going to get screwed)

    But now seeing this, I'm not sure if this applies, if you open your Actions & Traits menu there is "Actions", "Traits", and finally "Abilities".

    All of the crafting abilities such as preserve, hasty hand, assemble, creative urdge etc etc. Are all abilities.

    I see nothing in this update about "abilities" specifically- not to say they aren't included. But I wouldn't bet on this till a) we have more info, b) "Abilities" are clarified as being either actions or traits.
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    Upper tiers of an action (such as Fire II and Fire III) will be abolished in favor of a system wherein potency and MP cost are scaled based on the player’s level.
    Are FU**EN kidding me?
    So a low level BLM will be casting THE EXACT SAME spell effect as a level 50 only with less damage? how does that make sense? how is that uinique?
    please tell me im miss understanding this....
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    so we will not see Fire II and ancient spell again on CNJ?
    Fire, Fire II will be condensed to one spell, I'm /assuming/ ancient magic such as Flare will be a separate spell.
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