Jump Potions - Several Months In. Opinions/Discussions

[Truefaith87]

So we are several months into the era of FFXIV Jump Pots now, and I was curious of everyone's opinions on them. Do they still feel like a slap in the face? Do they have merit in some situations? Just a post in order to discuss your opinions of them, in an open forum for all to view.

My opinion? They are a mixed pot of good and bad. They let you catch up and play with your friends/family/loved ones quickly, for a one time fee, but they do not TEACH you the class you paid to level. If they gave a moderate level version of Hall of the Novice, to explain how different stacking/evasion markers work, instead of just throwing them into the fray, it could of been done a bit better. Am I going to say they're all bad? Not at all. It just takes people a chance, and time, to learn the class. Could it have been done better? Likely not, what they gave was a balanced point for it.

[KalinOrthos]

For me, personally, I kind of like the jump potions and would like to be able to use another. Leveling a dragoon, it feels so much like an absolute slog, but when I zone into PotD, it feels so fun, so active. I would actually pay to be able to skip that leveling process just to be able to get that fun part.

However, there are problems, and it would be stupid not to acknowledge that there are issues with the implementation. One thing I do appreciate that WoW does with its Level 100 boosts is that it gives you basic run down, a target dummy, and effortless spec switching that lets you try before you buy, or MAKE you know the absolute basics before you start playing with other people. I wish there was something like that in FF14, but then again, WoW took an expansion or two to get their boosts down.

Also, please dear god, do not have an unlimited amount of jump potions purchasable.

[Darkobra]

People keep going on about how jump potions mean unskilled players get to high end content, with no idea how to play their class.

These same people do Palace of the Dead runs.

[Gemina]

How am I supposed to tell who has used a potion and who hasn't? Skill level inside an instance isn't going to give me any indication. I run a lot of 50+ content and I haven't noticed any difference in player skill. It's as random as it always was, and I am not going to use raids or EX primals as a means to differentiate either. For content below level 50, I expect players to still be learning their jobs and their roles whether they consumed a potion or not.

My opinion of them isn't any different than before they were implemented, and that is they are a necessary evil, and I wish there were another way, or another player mentality. What I have noticed is that there are still plenty of sprouts running ARR leveling content. While I don't know if they are actually new players or alts, I do know that I am happy to see the amount there is.

[DeaconMoore]

They're great for making an alt on another server to play with someone there.

They're potentially a waste of money when used on a previously unplayed class. I've known a few people opting to use such things in the past regretting their class choice and abandoning the character soon after.

[Alien_Gamer]

From everything I've seen they don't matter. Players like to complain about the skill of players when using a job potion but that's a really weak argument. Players have always been complaining about the low level of skill of other players; at first it was they didn't learn in dungeons, then it was they did PoTD and didn't learn, now its they used the jump potion. But the fact is, those players will either get good practicing or they won't get good; how they leveled to 60 is largely irrelevant to that. Even with a jump potion players still need to level to 70 before they can hit end game content. If a player still sucks by then, then they weren't trying to get good and the other 60 levels wouldn't have made a difference.

So nothing has changed really.

[Ametrine]

I've noticed no notable skill difference, no increase in "bad" players, nor toxic players.

If anything, the only change is that Stormblood content, in general, is a little bit harder, and everyone is still dealing with the new abilities.

So, potions are fine. But! I do think expanding the hall of the novice for intermediate level content and forcing potion players to complete these would help shut-up naysayers.

[Vahlnir]

From everything I've seen they don't matter. Players like to complain about the skill of players when using a job potion but that's a really weak argument.

There has been a very slight increase in a lack of player skill, but the blame isn't really on jump potions entirely. Maybe a very small fraction, but it's not completely due to the introduction of jump potions. As has been said, people leveling through fates or PotD have the potential of being just as unskilled. Stormblood brought in a fair amount of new blood, and it'll take some time for those players to settle into the game, and their respective jobs. No one's a pro straight from the get go. Anyway, my personal opinion is not much has really changed.

[BigRed5392]

the people who want to learn will, those who don't won't.

for those that wanna learn, quick explanations go a long way. Should never expect a game to teach everything, more so in mmo.

im not fond of fresh players buying a lvl 60. but i rarely see fresh players buying a lvl 60. Heck a person who me and my gf met in copperbell just started and is leveling from the ground up. asks questions, and hasn't even asked about jump potions.

[NintenPyjak64]

They're potentially a waste of money when used on a previously unplayed class. I've known a few people opting to use such things in the past regretting their class choice and abandoning the character soon after.

I decided to buy a boost for my AST, I thought I'd enjoy playing it... I was dead friggin wrong

A combination of Bardam's Mettle, and cards (I seriously hate playing with cards now) really turned me off from the job as a whole. I ended up using the gear I've earned through AST to take WHM to 70 instead. While still stressful I had way more fun and felt more "in control" on WHM

Do I regret wasting the money? A little yea, but no use crying over spilled milk. I wasn't going to use a boost on a job that was 50+ anyways, and AST was my only sub 50 job