Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
Solution

Vulnerability Ups belong to the Tanks.
Consolidate it (3 different kinds of PDPS up, really)

Maybe even throw it into Role Actions as a Third Step weaponskill that can combo off any of the second-step hate-combos.

...That thing PVP Butcher's block does? Yeah, let's just do that.
Actually that's something I can completely get behind. It works in Tera Online and they override each other so you can't stack 2 tanks for it.

Quote Originally Posted by MiruWest View Post
Ive heard the argument that if they gave BRD/MCH a way to do pierce debuff, it would mean group wouldn't HAVE to bring a DRG. THATS A GOOD THING!!! No class should have a staple stop in a group.
Yeah, people cried about how WAR brought "too much utility" in HW because of Storm's Eye (let's be honest, no WAR that cared about their DPS did Storm's Path) because it buffed NIN and the other 2 tanks. Why is it ok for DRG to hog 2 of 3 buffs the BRD can't parse well without? (Disembowel and Battle Litany) and the third being on SCH.

It's also annoying since every group needs MCH/BRD and those won't join without DRG. And since tanks like the aggro help from NIN and the others like Trick Attack, that's 3 of 4 slots locked. The fourth is just a competition between 3 casters and the "other p.ranged DPS".