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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    Dude007, I ask you to admit that you have posted misleading information in your OP and correct it accordingly.
    Neptune, I ask you to admit that you have not read (or fully understood) the entire original post, which details that the only TP moves each has show the umbral and astral contrast, which is entirely true.

    And I did not say that spirit and phantom are direct representatives of White and black, however the references do historically have a lighter and darker connotation, respectively. SE has provided backgrounds to both jobs based on the quotes, the official site, and even character creation, which are distinct and leave few shades of gray.

    Fun Fact: in FFXIII, the battle paradigm "Thaumaturge" is represented by a party of 3 comprised of 2 Ravagers (Nukers) and 1 Medic (Healer). Not very dissimilar from the current THM of FFXIV. Elements of hybridism, while to date (to my knowledge) the only class anyone has used to successfully solo Dodore, Buffalo or Goblin NM's.
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 11-11-2011 at 06:32 AM.

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    Neptune Deepsea
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Neptune, I ask you to admit that you have not read (or fully understood) the entire original post, which details that the only TP moves each has show the umbral and astral contrast, which is entirely true.

    And I did not say that spirit and phantom are direct representatives of White and black, however the references do historically have a lighter and darker connotation, respectively. SE has provided backgrounds to both jobs based on the quotes, the official site, and even character creation, which are distinct and leave few shades of gray.

    I have read your post completely. Right now your OP says "Supporting evidence that Conjurers have Canonical White Mage backgrounds" and you have have not shown how a TP move is canonical. In fact you have not shown how anything in your post is canonical.

    For a start you could correct your post to state that you have supporting evidence that Conjurers have a light connotation and Thaumaturges have a dark connotation.
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