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    dragonseth07's Avatar
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    Ratithgar Jovasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyndam View Post
    That thread exists and, unsurprisingly, looks a lot like this one. Possibly worse.
    That's in part because many players who came to this game are FF players, not MMO players. They are used to single-player RPG's, where efficiency and optimization are more-or-less irrelevant. And they jump in here where, all of a sudden, you are expected to run optimal strats with perfect timing, because it's no longer a solo operation. You have a team counting on you, and they expect good play. There's not room for you to invent your own build or try and do things in a weird way.

    Lots of people can't make the transition.

    As to the OP, I'm sorry that I expect my fellow tanks to care about optimization. Claiming I'm a DPS player in disguise or some such is a really strange remark, but you do you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    As to the OP, I'm sorry that I expect my fellow tanks to care about optimization. Claiming I'm a DPS player in disguise or some such is a really strange remark, but you do you.
    I will say that learning how to be a good melee DPS helped me be a better tank. From both the execution side - double-weaving CDs, paying more attention to rotation and buffs, and (before they fixed it) making sure auto-attacks kept going, stuff like that. But then also from the perspective side, like I spend a bit more effort trying to make sure mobs are in good position for aoe, paying more attention to which mobs the dps are attacking if ST (still a pet peeve when I see dps attacking different targets, so I switch to whichever they are attacking).

    DPS player in disguise is a bit of a stretch, but I can say for sure that maining a DPS for a while gave me a better perspective on how to keep up damage while on tank. But just me personally, I take as much pride in dealing decent damage as I do in mitigating tank busters, like a Critical Hit doing 4k damage. That makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside, just as much as when my bard tells me to stop because I'm out dps'ing them lol. That's one of the great things about being a tank (and I'd presume healers), being able to do more than just "what's required".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    You have a team counting on you, and they expect good play.
    The optimization you're talking about kind of amounts to clocking in and out on time at the tanking factory. That's not really teamwork.
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