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  1. #31
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    Wow the position hack person not being appropriately punished... Using third-party tools to do things not possible during normal gameplay for an unfair advantage is almost the worst thing a person can do. It damages the quality of the product, damages the game experience of legitimate customers. The only worse thing would be a ddos attack on the servers for mass disruption to players lol.

    Knowingly using tools to damage the game cannot be tolerated and should result in the most severe punishments. Permanent ban from the game on first offense, maybe? It's not like tool-assisted cheating can happen by accident. A very small amount of customers would be removed by the bans as there aren't actually many bad eggs who go as far as position hacking (apart from RMT bots who already are banned for RMT reasons) but the game would be improved a lot for a large number of honest players by just removing those few cheaters.
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  2. #32
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    S0laire's Avatar
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    Claire Harvey
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Even though I stopped playing pvp in this game, I still lend my support for this cause. Nothing is more demoralizing than losing your ranked match because someone intentionally threw for the purpose of win-trading. The Devs should consider some of the more effective feedback ideas that many players have thrown out in order to deter cheating and ensure fair play is done in pvp. This would also entice more players to participate in pvp but are not doing so because they don't want to be the victim of a win-trade match.
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  3. #33
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    Reiku_Seraphia's Avatar
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    Reiku Seraphia
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Wintrading has a far greater impact since there is a ranking system with rewards to gain from it. Selfish players are getting their way with noone to stop them and this is making the community frustrated/angry. It's genuinely sad to see that people feel the need to cheat this way and even more sad that the PvP community that have stuck around for so long are feeling deflated and simply given up on 4v4 Feast altogether.

    Changes should have been made since wintrading has been an issue since Season 1. Almost a year and half has passed since then and we still have the same problem, except it seems to be a growing problem. SE, please sort this as a matter of urgency before more players decide to leave the game altogether.

    The proposed solution of having the ability to save replays is a good idea in my opinion. Not only will this allow us to re-watch awesome matches or learn from replays but it should give GMs more tools to better assess wintrading.
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  4. #34
    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 90
    I'll bump the topic and state that I don't PvP ranked play in this game specifically for these reasons stated in OP. It's much to fusterating.
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    Last edited by Kerwin; 09-19-2017 at 09:52 PM.

  5. #35
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    Raelynn Lovelace
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 90
    100% Support this, this needs to be heard.
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  6. #36
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    Aviars Lightsworn
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Another funny thing is that while people who use actual hacks (that are actually caught) are only slapped on the wrist, it is well known SE will perma ban people for being "mean" all the time, especially before the chat ban when players could actually talk to each other......

    But it is like Yoshida says, they really only have chat logs to go off of so it's easier for them to ban mean players with permas than hackers/boosters/cheaters with even a temp ban and a rating wipe.
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  7. #37
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    Joe G'
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Idk but if he did use a second account to just dc he must be

    Pretty bad since he has to
    Really go through such lengths
    As to queue in his other account and dc
    So he can just win since he has no skill and has to be

    Really lacking some morals
    And has
    Many serious issues to just wintrade/cheat in a game
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    Last edited by Giunta781; 09-20-2017 at 05:01 AM.

  8. #38
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    Krolja's Avatar
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    Krolja Ajor
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    Behemoth
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Giunta781 View Post
    Idk but if he did use a second account to just dc he must be

    Pretty bad since he has to
    Really go through such lengths
    As to queue in his other account and dc
    So he can just win since he has no skill and has to be

    Really lacking some morals
    And has
    Many serious issues to just wintrade/cheat in a game
    Except he gets a weapon, cool armor, and a mount. What do you have?
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  9. #39
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    Mirchea Luslec
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    Odin
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    By the time we get a reply here 2 seasons if not more may pass and those wintrading would still be doing it like
    Really..did it became a new trend? to
    Use such mean methods to secure own's place on top 100
    Square
    Enix
    For how long do we have to complain on forums like this.
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  10. #40
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    I wholeheartedly support the suggestions in this thread.
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