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    Altena's Avatar
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    Altena Trife
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    I personally undercut by the approximate tax price.
    1g undercuts are rather pointless. You are basically banking on the item being in the same region as the retainer you're undercutting, and/or the same region the player is buying from, or the player who is buying is oblivious to the tax system.

    Undercutting by the rough tax amount does a few things - it opens your item up to be a higher priority in all regions to those who actually know how the tax system works and it also puts your item at the top of the list for those that are oblivious to taxes or are in the same region as your retainer. Finally it doesn't completely tank the price because tax is a small percentage of the item value..

    Huge undercuts are unnecessary though, unless the item itself is just flat out overpriced to begin with and is stagnant.

    However if undercuts get you salty, then you shouldn't be in the crafting business. Because it's going to happen - in every game and every market where prices are visible. Just have to accept the fact that people are going to undercut you - by 1g or 100k gil.. It happens. Just learn to adjust the items you focus on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    I personally undercut by the approximate tax price.
    1g undercuts are rather pointless. You are basically banking on the item being inthe same region as the retainer you're undercutting, and/or the same region the player is buying from, or the player who is buying is oblivious to the tax system.

    Undercutting by the rough tax amount does a few things - it opens your item up to be a higher priority in all regions to those who actually know how the tax system works and it also puts your item at the top of the list for those that are oblivious to taxes or are in the same region as your retainer. Finally it doesn't completely tank the price because tax is a small percentage of the item value..

    Huge undercuts are unnecessary though, unless the item itself is just flat out overpriced to begin with and is stagnant.

    However if undercuts get you salty, then you shouldn't be in the crafting business. Because it's going to happen - in every game and every market where prices are visible. Just have to accept the fact that people are going to undercut you - by 1g or 100k gil.. It happens. Just learn to adjust the items you focus on.
    I tested this with different retainers and so on, people buy the first listed, higher tax 90% of the time (really large amount) it is rare to see people paying attention to where the seller is and paying less overall.

    Though logic tells me people do on very high priced items, they may just teleport to the cheapest listed, I am not sure. I am not motivated enough to make large investments in a poor econ system like ffxiv's is. Reason being is I do not want to have a big loss when someone crashes an item.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    I tested this with different retainers and so on, people buy the first listed, higher tax 90% of the time (really large amount) it is rare to see people paying attention to where the seller is and paying less overall.

    Though logic tells me people do on very high priced items, they may just teleport to the cheapest listed, I am not sure. I am not motivated enough to make large investments in a poor econ system like ffxiv's is. Reason being is I do not want to have a big loss when someone crashes an item.
    I might be in the minority, but who knows, but I will always teleport to wherever the cheapest option is to buy an expensive item (aka something in the millions of gil). If it's something like a glamour prism I'll just snag the cheapest I see most of the time regardless of the item location.
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