A consern about space efficieny since stormblood is not getting enough space increase

[Berethos]

Do you know if apartments are sold out on their server? Which means they are even more likely to horde furniture while waiting to get a place.

Weren't apartments supposed to open up as caps were reached, with each ward holding a little over 500 apartments each at the actual apartment cap per apartment building (so the actual cap was over 30k)? I know there was a fair amount of chatter about that before 3.4 launched, though I don't recall if they were ever clear about if it was supposed to increase automatically or manually.

[Niwashi]

Weren't apartments supposed to open up as caps were reached, with each ward holding a little over 500 apartments each at the actual apartment cap?

They were supposed to. But I know it didn't happen when Balmung ran out of the initial 90 apartments. (I'm not sure if they've fixed that since or not. If they haven't, then I'd suspect some of the other high-pop servers may be in the same situation by now.)

[Berethos]

They were supposed to. But I know it didn't happen when Balmung ran out of the initial 90 apartments. (I'm not sure if they've fixed that since or not. If they haven't, then I'd suspect some of the other high-pop servers may be in the same situation by now.)

Well that sucks.

Had assumed it was "working as intended" but can't exactly check that on my server, as there are subdivisions that haven't even reached 30 filled apartments yet, much less 90.

[Moonlite]

Well that sucks.

Had assumed it was "working as intended" but can't exactly check that on my server, as there are subdivisions that haven't even reached 30 filled apartments yet, much less 90.

Not sidetrack this thread to much. But SE left it as is, hoping Shirogane will fix everything. At least no one is selling apartments for 5 million on Balmung at the moment.

Slightly back on track

Weird question why does the furniture storage have to be tied to housing/apartments? Clearly their are issues with that. They are adding the space/memory. Why couldn't the space be outside and accessible for people waiting for a place? Or is this another feature that is purely for the haves (designed for house owners).

[SokiYagami]

Not sidetrack this thread to much. But SE left it as is, hoping Shirogane will fix everything. At least no one is selling apartments for 5 million on Balmung at the moment.

Slightly back on track

Weird question why does the furniture storage have to be tied to housing/apartments? Clearly their are issues with that. They are adding the space/memory. Why couldn't the space be outside and accessible for people waiting for a place? Or is this another feature that is purely for the haves (designed for house owners).

My guess is that it's probably limitation due to the coding structure. That or they just want to keep the data increased to a bare minimum. Either way the players without a housing/apartment but are hogging furniture (especially seasonal ones because there are silly expensive when they go on the kupo store) for when they actually get their own place are left out. Personally I do hope these players can get access to some sort of space to at least store the seasonal furniture for reason mentioned earlier.

As for why the apartments aren't expanded on demand, I'll bet my gil on that they can only increase everything uniformly and the number of low population server with empty rooms probably out weight the number of high population severs that need more apartment. Asynchronization increase of plots/apartments are difficult to implement and maintain in a large scale MMO like XIV, but I still think we could really use this...

[Alleo]

Not to sound like a smartass, but if you don't even have an Apartment, why would you fill up retainers with furniture?

I have a small house and a apartment but I would find it better if we would have a storeroom for all, maybe with the limit of a smaller house. Also people either have to store seasonal furniture on their retainers if they ever want a house/apartment or they will have to buy them with real money if they finally get one.

Anyway I am happy about this change but I still feel that this is again only for a small amount of people so I would just love it, if its available for everyone.

[RyuuSkyez]

Agreed, space efficiency is important

[Berethos]

Anyway I am happy about this change but I still feel that this is again only for a small amount of people so I would just love it, if its available for everyone.

If you count up the number of potential characters it impacts...it's not at all for a small amount of people.

Between apartments and houses, you're already around 9,000 characters per server that can access this (and for most servers, the number of players that have reached the point where they can get FC rooms or apartments due to level/gc requirements is less than the number currently available). Add in that it also works with FC private chambers and the number of players that can potentially tap into this goes up even more...a lot more in fact (512 private chambers per FC house...if there were only 3 FC houses per ward and 3 per each subdivision across all housing districts that's still over 100,000 potential private chambers per server).

Of course, just because it can reach that number doesn't mean it would be healthy for the game's performance/servers, so just like dozens of MMOs have done before they put a barrier up to limit the overall impact (there's also a chance it's done with future changes in mind and "balanced" against that, where doing it this way makes it easier/more feasible to do the other things they want to do and we end up with the sum of all the parts being better than any one feature, but that's just speculation).

Also, I'd be surprised if the number of players holding on to furniture that have absolutely no property of any kind is more than a small minority, much less the majority, so I really don't think this is meant to help just a small amount of players.

[Snow_Princess]

My guess is that it's probably limitation due to the coding structure. That or they just want to keep the data increased to a bare minimum. Either way the players without a housing/apartment but are hogging furniture (especially seasonal ones because there are sillyexpensive when they go on the kupo store) for when they actually get their own place are left out. Personally I do hope these players can get access to some sort of space to at least store the seasonal furniture for reason mentioned earlier.

As for why the apartments aren't expanded on demand, I'll bet my gil on that they can only increase everything uniformly and the number of low population server with empty rooms probably out weight the number of high population severs that need more apartment. Asynchronization increase of plots/apartments are difficult to implement and maintain in a large scale MMO like XIV, but I still think we could really use this...

SE can do more to fix population spreads, it is amazing to me they are stubborn in not labeling a server or 2 as RP and making new servers for that, while letting people free transfer to them. They can do a LOT MORE to address the hosing and population issues, and it is mind bogging they are not doing so. My guess is they simply do not want to spend the money. I actually find that insulting at this point given how they are forcing us to pay double sub for inventory. If they are charging the player base so much, something should be returning to the game.

[Berethos]

"Not want to spend the money."

vs.

About to add an inventory management feature that can potentially be used by well over a hundred thousand characters per server (in my FC's ward, there's 14 FC houses...do the math and think about that for a second).

One of those doesn't jive with the other.