Dear Healers who don't DPS

[MoroMurasaki]

A) I think I could challenge that pretty easily, even when not actively avoiding CDs on my tank. >:3
B) I pretty much assume every pug I run with already does that.

If the idea thay people are standing around for an entire GCD especially in a game with such comparatively long GCDs does not bother you then I give up.

Keep helping people play incredibly lazily, I'll keep speaking up and trying to help them improve.

[era1Ne]

The issue is on bosses and small pulls when there is so little damage out there that your choices become DPSing, massive overhealing or doing nothing. Only one of those has literally any benefit. I don't know of any normal pulls of trash and very few bosses that can kill a player in one GCD without some other serious mistakes syncing up like a tank losing threat before a tankbuster. In that situation I believe it is perfectly acceptable to DPS.

The windows are there to dps of course and most of the time good healers will cast dps spells then having to heal the party. In order to do this you have to use everything and know what skills can do. For example, you can use Collective Unconscious, another hot + TD on the tank, then use lightspeed (mostly for mana reasons) before using Opposition to extend every buff. Even in big pulls, if the tanks is decent you can dps a lot with this strategy without having to thinking about the tank. Throw in an instant heal or place an earthly later on, if needed and you are good to go.

Before we get into 'not everyone knows that about every fight' that is an excuse I don't accept because we are all playing on internet enabled computers and PS4s where YouTube is easily accessible.

i'd recommend reducing your dmg, if you are new to a fight and try to learn it before going all out and even start keeping people at low health to push yourself further. Especially in ex or savage fights, since normal mode usually can't kill people if they don't make (a lot) mistakes. Therefore i wouldn't really call it an excuse, if you are new to a fight better be save then sorry. You can push yourself early enough. Also i wouldn't expect people watching an guide fo dungeons like sastasha. Of course you should read your tooltips, ask questions and read/watch guides for ex or savage fights, usually. With that said, i prefer going into those fights with friends/static and try them blind and learning the mechanics ourself.

Yeah it's a long explanation but there is a lot more to configuring the controller beyond defaults which can scare off newbies if you aren't patient enough to help them utilize their HUD and configuration.

Well, some don't even know about them and most of the time you don't have these kind of options in an console game. I don't blame them and this reminds me that i have to use one of the Q&A in the future to ask yoshi, if they ever will consider making an not skippable 5 min video to explain that these options exist. That said, if you use those option, then there shouldn't be any issue. If you are playing on ps4 and can't play with gamepad, you can youse mouse+keyboard aswell, anyway.

[Kabooa]

If the idea thay people are standing around for an entire GCD especially in a game with such comparatively long GCDs does not bother you then I give up.

Keep helping people play incredibly lazily, I'll keep speaking up and trying to help them improve.

You do you, man. I'll just hammer the boss into the ground and wave as I'm heading out the portal.

[QT_Melon]

I don't blame them and this reminds me that i have to use one of the Q&A in the future to ask yoshi, if they ever will consider making an not skippable 5 min video to explain that these options exist. That said, if you use those option, then there shouldn't be any issue. If you are playing on ps4 and can't play with gamepad, you can youse mouse+keyboard aswell, anyway.

Yuck. I'm sorry but trying to force someone to watch a five minute video on how to play the game isn't going to help. I know we'd like to teach people these options exist, but I kinda figured that's what us veterans are here for. I don't want to Clockwork Orange a player. I don't mind pointing them to a video if need be though if an official one was made.

[era1Ne]

Yuck. I'm sorry but trying to force someone to watch a five minute video on how to play the game isn't going to help. I know we'd like to teach people these options exist, but I kinda figured that's what us veterans are here for. I don't want to Clockwork Orange a player. I don't mind pointing them to a video if need be though if an official one was made.

I have never said the video should teach them how to play the game. It should just tell them basic stuff like...

• You can change your ui under layout to your taste
• You can activate additional hotbars to use more skills with gamepad faster
• You can enter the novice chat for additional questions

I have meet a few people who complained about the lack of space on their hotbar or that it is clunky to switch with r1 and then i asked them, if they are already using those shortcut features and they didn't even know those exist. Could they have asked? Maybe, but how often do people ask about stuff they don't expect a game to have or dont know exist?

Edit:

Keep helping people play incredibly lazily, I'll keep speaking up and trying to help them improve.

No offense, but i hope you don't call them lazy when trying to help them. Some of them are, but some of them are not

[Tridus]

]You can enter the novice chat for additional questions[/LIST]I have meet a few people who complained about the lack of space on their hotbar or that it is clunky to switch with r1 and then i asked them, if they are already using those shortcut features and they didn't even know those exist. Could they have asked? Maybe, but how often do people ask about stuff they don't expect a game to have or dont know exist

One of the things that software developers should know is that around 90% of users of a mainstream application will never change the default settings. It is EXTREMELY important to have good defaults as a result. I'd suspect the percentage is lower for MMO players because of the nature of the game, but the general point stands. Lots of people have no idea the options exist and will not go looking for them if they're not told.

I don't know what its like with a controller, but the PC version doesn't start off with enough hotbars visible and doesn't make it terribly clear how to get more. You can actually do a fair bit if you understand how to do it, but its a thing people who don't know how to do it will struggle with until they get help.

[Skye_]

Why is this thread going on and on

[Miste]

Why is this thread going on and on

Well you did just post in it, therefore bumping it again, seems counter productive if you want it to stop.

[Seoulstar]

Well you did just post in it, therefore bumping it again, seems counter productive if you want it to stop.

That still doesn't answer the question and if they didn't post something. Someone else would that would keep the argument going.

[Miste]

That still doesn't answer the question and if they didn't post something. Someone else would that would keep the argument going.

What argument though? Last posts recently is just people casually discussing things about the game. Controller issues and such. Bumping it now asking "why is this thread still going" is sort of pointless and serves no purpose except to bump it.

Not to mention said person is asking why this thread is still going, yet made their own thread about healer DPS anyway. Of course the argument is going to continue forever anyway.