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  1. #11901
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    JumperX's Avatar
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    Sam West
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 36
    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    I didn't know it was my responsibility to make sure everyone else knows the fight beforehand. Is that a new responsibility of the tank role? I wasn't informed of that in our last Tank Union meeting of this responsibility.

    If someone doesn't speak up that they do not know the fight, I am going to assume that they know it. I am not their parent.
    Shame on you!!!! They might be orphan for all you know and they might be looking for people to adopt them or their parents just suck.
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  2. #11902
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    raela's Avatar
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    Raela Sarinelle
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I strongly dislike Nocturnal AST, so even if cohealer is a WHM, you better believe I'm in Diurnal. Tried to go Noct for a trial once, just to have cohealer continuously die and leave me wishing for regens.

    .. luckily, I hit 70 on AST, so I can proceed to not touch it again for the next 2 years. Least favorite of the healer jobs for me..
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  3. #11903
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    Xtrasweettea's Avatar
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    Aelda Schuvorther
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    ?? It may be me but I ALWAYS ask if I see that note you got first timers. "Anyone need instruction?"
    Sometimes you get people too nervous to ask for help from the bad reputation of newbies getting kicked from complicated fights.
    That is you, and that is your choice to do so.

    I used to ask all the time when I would see the new person alert if that person needed help. Most of the time it was a silence response. So I just gave up after a while. If they really wanted to know about a specific boss fight, they need to speak up. I have no problem explaining boss encounters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkobra View Post
    We never invited you to the last Tank Union because you use green text unironically.
    You guys know I was supposed to bring the refreshments for that meeting, right?

    Also, I use greentext like an aunt on Facebook who thinks pictures of a Minion with text around it is a meme.

    Quote Originally Posted by JumperX View Post
    Shame on you!!!! They might be orphan for all you know and they might be looking for people to adopt them or their parents just suck.
    Dammit, you are right, I could’ve had the next Eorzian Batman on my hands, and I threw that away.
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    Last edited by Xtrasweettea; 09-11-2017 at 02:56 AM.

  4. #11904
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    Spiroglyph's Avatar
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    Soft Boiled
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Karathix View Post
    I would stay diurnal as the shields aren't needed and regens give more space for damage. Their reason sucks but regens don't overwrite so double regen can be fine.
    I know As I mentioned, it's easily solo healable and as you said WHM and AST regens are stackable, but actually going in there with this mindset without being arsed to equip your full skillset saddens me.

    Can't even call this being naive, it was pure lazyness - they were fully aware of what they were doing. It's just.. not considerate at all, lol
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  5. #11905
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    LittleSparrow's Avatar
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    Lilora Sparrow
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    I know As I mentioned, it's easily solo healable and as you said WHM and AST regens are stackable, but actually going in there with this mindset without being arsed to equip your full skillset saddens me.

    Can't even call this being naive, it was pure lazyness - they were fully aware of what they were doing. It's just.. not considerate at all, lol
    The WHM single target holying bugged me the most.
    The sect only mildly bothered me because I have in my head that I pick my sect based on co healer.
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  6. #11906
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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    That is you, and that is your choice to do so.
    Listen man, I want those comms. :P

    Although if you wipe a couple times like that, it's better to calmly explain the mechanic they keep failing than leaving players confused on the ground, but I get it that some days it's easier to just carry on, lol.
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  7. #11907
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    Spiroglyph's Avatar
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleSparrow View Post
    The WHM single target holying bugged me the most.
    The sect only mildly bothered me because I have in my head that I pick my sect based on co healer.
    Ahhh yes...
    The 1-target Holy spam and the wall-to-wall pulls with single target DPS's. Can't forget those.

    ASTs in DF kind of annoy me tbh :/ specially when I'm on my SCH, as the number of ASTs seemingly locked on noct is high... I don't really bother queuing up as SCH for this reason lol. At least if I go AST I can change sect accordingly.

    I'm aware that the the stuff I run (I have never touched savage, only primal fights) can be done with one healer or Noct AST + SCH, but it's one thing to not cast certain spells because you know they're not needed and to not cast them because you know they're going to be overwritten.

    Sorry to self-aware ASTs out there, I know not all of you do this annoying crap D:
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  8. #11908
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    Xtrasweettea's Avatar
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    Aelda Schuvorther
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    Listen man, I want those comms. :P

    Although if you wipe a couple times like that, it's better to calmly explain the mechanic they keep failing than leaving players confused on the ground, but I get it that some days it's easier to just carry on, lol.
    I can understand the comms. :P I to eventually make my Chocobo look like the Pope.

    I have no problem asking new people if they need help with mechanics for pre-level 30 duneons or a few select dungeon (like Arum Vale or Baelsar's Wall). It is when you get to the level 60 dungeons and above is when I have more of the stance of "tell me if you are new to this." I am assuming that you have done enough dungeons to understand that it is OK to ask for help. Asking up front will only cost me 5 minutes at most to explain bosses, which takes less time than wiping.

    You ask me if you need help, I'll help. Just like if you don't want me to do big pulls, just say so (though I usually ask that up front if people want big pulls or not, I am cool with either way).
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  9. #11909
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    Cenerae's Avatar
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    Cenerae Ten'aire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Ahhh yes...
    The 1-target Holy spam and the wall-to-wall pulls with single target DPS's. Can't forget those.

    ASTs in DF kind of annoy me tbh :/ specially when I'm on my SCH, as the number of ASTs seemingly locked on noct is high... I don't really bother queuing up as SCH for this reason lol. At least if I go AST I can change sect accordingly.

    I'm aware that the the stuff I run (I have never touched savage, only primal fights) can be done with one healer or Noct AST + SCH, but it's one thing to not cast certain spells because you know they're not needed and to not cast them because you know they're going to be overwritten.

    Sorry to self-aware ASTs out there, I know not all of you do this annoying crap D:
    As an AST main I really don't get the obsession so many ASTs have with Nocturnal in the first place. That extra 5% healing potency doesn't properly compensate the lack of ability to actually make health bars go back up efficiently. Less gimped at doing so than a SCH is sure, but it's less mana efficient to rely on shields than it is to use regens.

    ...If you're in an 8 man and you have to provide the shields, it's a different story obviously. But for 4 man content...I don't get it. The only thing I use Noct for is to quickly pop a pre-shield on the tank if I have time between pulls, then I'll swap right back to Diurnal for the more efficient regens.
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  10. #11910
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    LunaFaye's Avatar
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    Luna Faye
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Cenerae View Post
    As an AST main I really don't get the obsession so many ASTs have with Nocturnal in the first place. That extra 5% healing potency doesn't properly compensate the lack of ability to actually make health bars go back up efficiently. Less gimped at doing so than a SCH is sure, but it's less mana efficient to rely on shields than it is to use regens.

    ...If you're in an 8 man and you have to provide the shields, it's a different story obviously. But for 4 man content...I don't get it. The only thing I use Noct for is to quickly pop a pre-shield on the tank if I have time between pulls, then I'll swap right back to Diurnal for the more efficient regens.
    IF you ran stuff via DF lately, you would have figured out by now, that SCH's don't use their shields and WHM's don't use their regen/medica/medicaII, and in the worst cases they can't even find physick's and cure. While I don't main AST and in fact even hate playing it, sometimes I wish I could just be in both stances at the same time, because somehow I always end up having to pick up every bodies slack and laziness. Heal/tank/dps and why I not just do all group mechanics aka clicking buttons (dragon killers etc) while I am at it. Wish SE would just delete AST and SCH or make it an requirement that people before entering duties have to go through an hour "how to play your job correctly" course.
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