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  1. #11891
    Player
    Hestzhyen's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Hestzhyen Voer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    People are still new however so we wipe to the first boss - and a paladin starts complaining how it sucks that you have to figure out mechanics through trial and error or have to read a guide.
    ... how else would you figure out what to do? ESP? Seeing the future? I don't understand. Also, I know people play FF for a wide variety of reasons, but I'm pretty sure that figuring out how to beat a boss is Video Games 101. Who would play a game that gave you a quick run-down of mechanics and explicitly gave you instructions on how to clear the next area in a bullet list? (Please don't answer this question, it's rhetorical and I'm sad enough as it is. It's bad enough that some people won't do content until they can see how others did it first.)
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  2. #11892
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    Xtrasweettea's Avatar
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    Character
    Aelda Schuvorther
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleSparrow View Post
    Or, you know. You couldve explained beforehand.
    I didn't know it was my responsibility to make sure everyone else knows the fight beforehand. Is that a new responsibility of the tank role? I wasn't informed of that in our last Tank Union meeting of this responsibility.

    If someone doesn't speak up that they do not know the fight, I am going to assume that they know it. I am not their parent.
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  3. #11893
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    Starflake's Avatar
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    Character
    Freja Reginleif
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    There is nothing in this game that pushes my buttons more than people failing the second stack mechanic on the final boss of Gubal Library normal mode. Seriously, people, seriously!
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  4. #11894
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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    I didn't know it was my responsibility to make sure everyone else knows the fight beforehand. Is that a new responsibility of the tank role? I wasn't informed of that in our last Tank Union meeting of this responsibility.

    If someone doesn't speak up that they do not know the fight, I am going to assume that they know it. I am not their parent.
    ?? It may be me but I ALWAYS ask if I see that note you got first timers. "Anyone need instruction?"

    Sometimes you get people too nervous to ask for help from the bad reputation of newbies getting kicked from complicated fights.
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  5. #11895
    Player
    Darkobra's Avatar
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    Darkobra Kage
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    I didn't know it was my responsibility to make sure everyone else knows the fight beforehand. Is that a new responsibility of the tank role? I wasn't informed of that in our last Tank Union meeting of this responsibility.
    We never invited you to the last Tank Union because you use green text unironically.
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  6. #11896
    Player
    Aosha's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aosha Koz'ain
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    ...yesterday... ...dragoon spamming stuff at the start...
    Wait what? Yesterday? Dragoon hasn't had Ring of Thorns since the launch of Stormblood. Now they have nothing like that that they could spam.
    Was it maybe someone else that was doing it? Samurai at least has a somewhat similar looking AoE they can spam.
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  7. #11897
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    Spiroglyph's Avatar
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    Character
    Soft Boiled
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I had an AST today in o4n locked in Diurnal Sect with a WHM cohealer (a FC friend of mine).

    They refused to change to Noct - once we asked why, they answered that they'd been speed leveling and hadn't done any class quests.

    Seriously... why do this. Why.

    The instance is pretty much solo heal-able, yes, but if you know you're going to queue to TEAM content of CAP LEVEL why would you do this. I don't understand. Being min ilvl is one thing and it's entirely ok, but missing skills since lvl 50... that is not cool. Please do not do this.
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  8. #11898
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    ExVex's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ex Vex
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Is it alright if I share a good tale? Hope no one minds.

    I'm a baby tank who isn't experienced with big pulls. I try not to do them unless someone, specifically the healer, gives me the go ahead. But even then, I warn them. I'm still learning!

    I queued in DF for Amdapor Keep, because for some reason, I want my ARR relic and I'm not far enough ahead in HW story for much else. I'm asked to pull more after a few small mobs. I nervously did so and we wiped. Like, nice going me! It's not a hard dungeon! Of course, I apologized.

    Instead of annoyance or anger, the party gave me their full support and offered me advice as we went along. I continued to pull multiple mobs. The rest of the run goes fine.

    As a sprout, I screw up. But, I'm so grateful to the players who are willing to be patient. Without them, I wouldn't have been able to have an experience such as that one.

    I know I could just quit. However, if I did that, I would never learn.
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    should you begin to lose heart, look to me in the stands!

  9. #11899
    Player
    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Similar story, I'm trying to give WAR a go after unlocking it like 2 years ago and then never touching it again. Queue up and land in Haukke Manor. I tell my party I'm learning to tank, when my MCH says she's brand new, too. Cool.

    Later, at that part where you move down to the basement/dungeon area, I tried to loop around and hold the guys on the stairs, when I see the RDM jump off and directly on top of the mobs in front of the door. Provoke, a few overpowers, and a rampart later, I say, "Try not to pull ahead of me."

    And I got nothing but apologies from both DPS (apparently the MCH followed the red off the side). I told them it was fine, and the rest of the dungeon went swimmingly. Diplomacy!

    Warrior (maybe tanking in general) is more fun and a little easier in Stormblood.
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    Last edited by Ametrine; 09-10-2017 at 06:50 PM.

  10. #11900
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    Karathix's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Karara Kara
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    I had an AST today in o4n locked in Diurnal Sect with a WHM cohealer (a FC friend of mine).

    They refused to change to Noct - once we asked why, they answered that they'd been speed leveling and hadn't done any class quests.

    Seriously... why do this. Why.
    I would stay diurnal as the shields aren't needed and regens give more space for damage. Their reason sucks but regens don't overwrite so double regen can be fine.
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