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  1. #71
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    Zfz's Avatar
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour View Post
    I welcome the influx of people.
    I hate it when people flood to FATEs, it makes FATEs last many times longer than when nobody does them. That's the main thing I hate about the FATE system. When the horde of people leave, the next round of FATEs take so long to do they're a waste of time.

    And I simply hate events that rely on FATEs. Or anything that rely on FATEs. FATEs were supposed to be something spontaneous, not something we camp for. Yet what has it been ever since the first day of 2.0 launch? It has been something people camp for.

    In 2.0 people camp all the FATEs for the EXP. Then when EXP was nerfed nobody does them. They become just an annoyance on the map. Then people camp designated FATEs for events and for the relic, the rest are still just annoyances on the map.

    The FATE system is a complete failure in design. It had good intentions but it should have just been built into the overworld system pervasively. Just part of the world, that things happen on the maps. It would have been fine if it was just another failed game system, but the devs refuse to acknowledge their failure and try to herd, try to force, try to make players go to these FATEs, thinking that this somehow saves the FATE system.

    So I absolute detest how the dev are forcing players to do things we don't like to do. Just acknowedge that FATEs are a failed system. Get over it. And stop forcing players to waste time in camping for random drops from FATEs.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  2. #72
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    Miya_Carbuncle's Avatar
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    Miya Carbuncle
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    I'm just not looking forward to fate grinding myself. Waiting for those to pop is boring.
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  3. #73
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    Rama Kagon
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    I'm guessing one of the BIG reasons for hating the yo-kai event is because it's quite literally the same as last year, with the same exact method of obtaining the skins with the same exact rng BeeEss method that EVERYONE hated (unless they made drop rates higher but even then it's still stupid).

    You know the saying "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"? Well, this is that saying at full freaking force because they literally did nothing with it - not even adding sammy or reds weapons - resulting in having the same flaws as last time. Unless they upped the drop rate but that's a band-aid to a bigger issue.
    It just screams laziness in my opinion, to the point that I think they shouldn't even have bothered bringing it again.

    And also as someone who actually love the actual yo-kai watch game (still need to get the second games), It would make me pretty angry if people get turned off because of this event. Talk about bad advertisement!

    ...and if anyone disagrees then enjoy your thousands of fates!
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  4. #74
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    Mikki Evermore
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    I guess I'm one of the few people who is actually quite happy that this event is back. I really wanted the Manjimutt as a minion for my new main, so I'm going to farm some fates for that one at least. Also I can finally level a few side-classes with a secondary reason, so that's also a plus for me.
    But honestly, although I'm happy with the event, I get why people hate it and want something else or completely new. Fate grinding isn't fun at all, there's no real story behind it all and Yokai... Well, it's a weird version of Pokemon.
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  5. #75
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    So...obviously, there's been quite a few threads from players who are complaining about the Yo-Kai event popping up. It hasn't even been a full 24 hours and you'd think that the devs nerfed all the jobs in order to make Summoner the only DPS capable of clearing Omega Savage. I don't get it. It wasn't too long ago that a lot of players had been posting here and in the forums about how dead it felt with not having anything going on. Now we have a 2-month event that should increase activity. Not only that, but it isn't like you are being forced to take part in the event.

    Also...if you recall, Stormblood brought in a lot of new subscriptions, so for a lot of players, this is the first time getting this event. Personally, I don't mind having something else to do. I actually enjoy the fact that I don't need to be grinding 24/7 to clear this event. I enjoy that I have plenty of time to grind a new job in something other than POTD.

    My thing is, why are players complaining? Considering that it literally popped up less than a few days after the Level 5 CEO mentioned this, I think it's pretty impressive. Personally, I want to see more of these limited-time events that I missed before I started playing FFXIV.
    Probably because a lot of the complaining players play way longer than you and they want all the other nice cross over events that will most likely never hit the servers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  6. #76
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour View Post
    The Lightning event was rerun. I'm pretty sure the Shantotto and DQX events were rerun as well.
    I think the second FFXI event was the only tie-in that hasn't come back again.

    If they want to bring any of those back again though, I'd be down with that.
    If memory serves only Lightning came back like 3 times. Shantotto was only once. At least those events were fun

    As for topic at hand only reasoning i would go with is because we should have new events not always repeats. And perhaps more FF related stuff? Yo-kai, Power Rangers and other stuff is so far off just like how XV got Assasin's Creed, lol
    I am happy though that some who were unable to get on the first round could now. And hopefully it is made easier? The first one was a pita like atma was (ok not as bad but kind of close)

    I would just hope they do not bring it a 3rd time however, i mean i know they are Pro's at reusing same content but... yeah
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  7. #77
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    Kirsa Ishtola
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    A lot of people are saying that they just don't like Youkai Watch. That's fine, but not really a valid reason to complain about the event imo. Not everything is going to be for everyone.

    As for the time sink/grind... Most of the events they give us are short. I don't think it's really a bad thing to have a longer one every now and then. If you don't think it's worth the grind then just don't do it. Last year I only ended up getting two weapons I wanted, and all the minions. This year I've gotten two more weapons. If you don't care about the glowing mount, then there's really no need to force yourself to do the "horrible" grind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    If memory serves only Lightning came back like 3 times. Shantotto was only once. At least those events were fun
    The Lightning event was just FATEs, though. Not all that different from usual events.
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    Last edited by Evumeimei; 09-05-2017 at 09:36 PM.

  8. #78
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    Ilyrian Silvermoon
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    As someone who loves a grind/farm to a fault, I am glad I have no idea what Yo-Kai is so am happy to sit this one out.
    Put in some FF related nostalgia stuff and it would be a different story >.<
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  9. #79
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    Lasdor Edenholt
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    Better bring back old event and let new player or player that lost the opportunity to go and farm minions and reward IN GAME instead of adding everything to cash shop. I did the event and I'm delighted to see it back. Here hoping YoshiP will activate old event more often.
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  10. #80
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    C'qhataia Ixa'ris
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    Because the aesthetic difference is bothersome. It doesn't mesh well.
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