Is Fordola the monster Lyse says she is?

[Alleo]

Depending on how strictly you want to define "shoot" and "comrades", there's also Zenos (definitely own comrades, but did not shoot) and that unfortunate villager in the Ruby Sea (shot, may or may not be own comrade, but certainly fellow villager).

Okay maybe then: None of the alliance did something like her.

I am not really sure how I should rate the villager since there was the imminent danger that everyone in the village would die but yes he also killed his own friend but he also payed that with his own life. (And like I said I am not sure how to rate that situation because nobody was really holding a real gun at Fordolas head at that time and they did not know if they would even lose the fight against the alliance thus no immediate danger.)

I do think she felt that if they had the chance to make the call themselves her own people would have told her to fire. They all shared the same desire and goal and they had all chosen to do whatever was necessary to achieve that acceptance. There is something to be said for knowing your people well enough to be able to judge what their decision would be.

Well she seems to have not known them enough because if she did not shoot them Conrad would have made them surrender and change side. At least we were told that they were ready to lay down their weapons so its seems that they did not see it her way. Also not sure if thats not a bad way to do something. I mean I could go around and do things and afterwards say that this person would have been alright with it but the problem is, they dont know that because they cant ask them anymore.

I don't particularly care for the comeback that Garlemald isn't interested in diplomacy. Neither Ishgard or the Dravanians were interested in diplomacy but the Warrior of Light and Scions did not take 'no' for an answer. Furthermore, Regula was more than willing to team up with the Warrior of Light for the sake of the greater good. Temporarily, perhaps, but had he survived it could very well have led to him having a word with the Emperor and seeking a different approach to all things Eorzea.

These are two different situations..Garlemald is the aggressor that invaded Eorzea and took an independent state under their rule. They did not care about diplomacy when they conquered them with force, so why should the alliance use diplomacy with them? What good would that bring? Do you really believe that they would give away Ala Mhigo? Or that any of the options would be good for Eorzea? A complete freedom from Garlemald is the only really good solution for Ala Mhigo because they would be finally free to choose their own path again.

Most from Ishgard and the dragons never knew that it was a lie and thus they fought a war that they thought was right. We went with the believe that it was all the dragons fault and yet we still tried diplomacy with the dragons where we learned that it was all a lie..but why should anyone believe us? Yet Aymeric did and together with us they changed the future for Ishgard and for the dragons and not only with force but also diplomacy. (I mean that is what the one meeting with the dragon was about)

Also what should the Wol have done in your opinion? You are putting him and the scions down again even though Ishgard was living a lie and Nidhogg was not interested in peace..should we just go our way and leave a whole city state and all the dragons at war with more and more countless victims even though we knew that they are living a lie and that we may have the power to put an end to it? And wouldnt that mean that the alliance would be missing an important member in important fights thus even more victims?

We also cant say much about Regula because he is simply dead. He could have changed or he could have not.

And this will be the only thing I am going to write about Garlemald itself otherwise this will just turn into another debate of them which is off topic but I am not surprised that you started it again. Anyway I will not further this argument, I just brought my points to yours and this will be all.