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  1. #81
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    Evumeimei's Avatar
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    Kirsa Ishtola
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    Arcanist Lv 37
    If from the start of the dungeon the tank is speeding off, then you probably don't have time to stop and type. Swiftcast Eos and follow them as soon as they start moving.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    I absolutely love it when tanks properly use sprint, and great tanks will always remember SCH's like to prebuff with Aldo and Excog before they sprint off to aggro the mobs.
    As SCH pre-Stormblood I was already timing my Adlo for the next pull to be applied just as the last mob from previous trash is dying. That way there is no downtime.

    Regardless, there are ways to adjust to a sprint-happy tank. I was surprised when I had one for my first ever level 70 dungeon (as WHM). Panicked a bit, if I'm honest, but managed to keep up just fine.
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    Last edited by Evumeimei; 08-29-2017 at 10:25 PM.

  2. #82
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    Barkit's Avatar
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    M'arq Haze
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    *Start Casting Protect*
    *Tank Sprints off*
    *Sigh* Gonna be one of those days.

    It's definitely worse now than it used to be. At least before if they ran away, you could use Sprint as a gap closer. When they use it? GG.
    YES! THIS! ALL OF THIS!!! Jesus Tap dancing Christ why do tanks sprint off at the start of a dungeon before getting protect?! I even once had a tank ask me why didn't I cast protect on him after he had sprinted off. His swift death from lack of heals was my answer to that question.
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  3. #83
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    Sunspawn's Avatar
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    Baudouin Anjou
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    Moogle
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Evumeimei View Post
    As SCH pre-Stormblood I was already timing my Adlo for the next pull to be applied just as the last mob from previous trash is dying. That way there is no downtime.
    The problem is when tanks speed off while the last mob is on 20% or so. It happens more often than I'd like to see when playing melee dps.
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  4. #84
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    Thoro Heavypunch
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunspawn View Post
    The problem is when tanks speed off while the last mob is on 20% or so. It happens more often than I'd like to see when playing melee dps.
    I play relatively a lot and have a lot of classes at 70. The amounts of times I have seen a tank do this in my 3 years of playing, I could count them on one hand.
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  5. #85
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    Anienai Talenca
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunspawn View Post
    The problem is when tanks speed off while the last mob is on 20% or so. It happens more often than I'd like to see when playing melee dps.
    I'm guilty of this...
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  6. #86
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunspawn View Post
    The problem is when tanks speed off while the last mob is on 20% or so. It happens more often than I'd like to see when playing melee dps.
    OMG this. Then they drag the damned thing along with them rather than letting us finish it off and start a new pull.
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  7. #87
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    Lilac Blackthorne
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Evumeimei View Post
    If from the start of the dungeon the tank is speeding off, then you probably don't have time to stop and type. Swiftcast Eos and follow them as soon as they start moving.
    I don't need to stop to type with a macro? If I swift summon my EOS, that means I'll have to hard cast Protect. My Protect is macro'd meaning every time I use Protect my words always play in party chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    protect macro that says, "Casting Protect, Please don't sprint off yet".
    Tanks don't run off without waiting for buffs out of malice, people can be forgetful, and saying "Please" can go a long way. In fact, I've seen a noticeable difference ever since I started using it.
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  8. #88
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    Kodoyaki Takoyaki
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    Sephirot
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    Black Mage Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowblind View Post
    I'll never understand why a tank would use sprint in the first place in a dungeon after aggroing a mob.
    Came here to say this. There's no point in the tank running ahead. It won't speed up the dungeon run, because you'll still have to wait for the rest of the party to catch up and kill the mobs you pulled, and even if you aren't pulling anything, you'll still have to stand and wait at the next boss encounter until the rest of the party arrives. No point whatsoever sprinting in dungeons unless you need to catch up to the party or avoid a mad AOE spam.
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  9. #89
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    Chabis Raclette
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    Shiva
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Just to make it clear to all the casual scrubs here.
    Its not about speeding the dungeon time.
    Its about avoiding as many auto hits as possible while pulling for larger mobs. (you hit run as soon as you pulled the first mobs) And that my DDs can keep their stack and buffs up. (Depends on dungeons and if a boss or mobs is coming next)

    On the other side i have seen some tanks just not waiting for protes and waisting their run cd to get to a mob etc. This is very suboptimal!
    Same for healers who are just too slow like they had valium with milk. Dont sleep! You have enough instant heals (oGCD) to top a Tank up if you didnt pay attention.
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  10. #90
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    I don't need to stop to type with a macro? If I swift summon my EOS, that means I'll have to hard cast Protect. My Protect is macro'd meaning every time I use Protect my words always play in party chat.

    Tanks don't run off without waiting for buffs out of malice, people can be forgetful, and saying "Please" can go a long way. In fact, I've seen a noticeable difference ever since I started using it.
    I had the same result. Macroed in "Casting Protect, please stay close! " Had a tank run off, see that, and run *back* to be in the cast. A little bit of polite communication goes a long way.
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