Please scale the difficulty of Royal Menagerie

[aesteval]

Where does it stop. SE gives an inch, playerbase asks for a mile next time. They should never had touched Steps of Faith. Its an end boss. Its supposed to be hard. Deal with it.

It's an MMO. There's no such thing as an end boss, it just keeps going.

[Mavrias]

It's an MMO. There's no such thing as an end boss, it just keeps going.

It's the end boss for the first part of Stormblood and a reference to a recurring superboss throughout the final fantasy series. There is no reason it should be a joke to clear like Thordan was.

[aesteval]

It's the end boss for the first part of Stormblood and a reference to a recurring superboss throughout the final fantasy series. There is no reason it should be a joke to clear like Thordan was.

There's no reason for a superboss to be a joke, but there's also no reason to lock the basic endgame gearing grind behind a superboss. It was a mistake to have this boss at this time in the story. Give it 12 - 18 months to introduce an epic fight like Final Steps of Faith.

[missybee]

It was a mistake

As evidenced by the fact that the devs have no intention of adjusting the difficulty, I think it is safe to say that it was not, in fact, a mistake.

[aesteval]

As evidenced by the fact that the devs have no intention of adjusting the difficulty, I think it is safe to say that it was not, in fact, a mistake.

Considering that there's some level of subjectivity in whether something is a mistake or not at times, the devs having no intention to change it does not mean it wasn't a mistake. A superboss is not a story boss, it's something above and beyond. Placing this traditional superboss as a story boss is wasted potential.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Considering that there's some level of subjectivity in whether something is a mistake or not at times, the devs having no intention to change it does not mean it wasn't a mistake. A superboss is not a story boss, it's something above and beyond. Placing this traditional superboss as a story boss is wasted potential.

Superboss? Shinryu pales in comparison to the likes of Sephirot, Thordan, Titan, Ifrit or just about every EX fight, who themselves don't even scratch Living Liquid or Brute Justice Savage-- the actual "superbosses" this game offers. He's slightly above average in a MSQ that requires little more than a pulse for half its content. Royal Menagerie only has "pay attention" checks. Calling it a superboss is absolutely ridiculous.

[TankHunter678]

Superboss? Shinryu pales in comparison to the likes of Sephirot, Thordan, Titan, Ifrit or just about every EX fight, who themselves don't even scratch Living Liquid or Brute Justice Savage-- the actual "superbosses" this game offers. He's slightly above average in a MSQ that requires little more than a pulse for half its content. Royal Menagerie only has "pay attention" checks. Calling it a superboss is absolutely ridiculous.

Shinryu in his home game was a superboss, same with omega and Ozma actually.

[missybee]

Considering that there's some level of subjectivity in whether something is a mistake or not at times, the devs having no intention to change it does not mean it wasn't a mistake. A superboss is not a story boss, it's something above and beyond. Placing this traditional superboss as a story boss is wasted potential.

The fact that they think it is fine as-is would suggest to me that they don't see it as a mistake, but I mean... /shruuuuuug?

But yeah, I don't view Shinryu as any harder than Final Steps or even the Chrysalis upon their respective releases. Wipe once, realize where you flubbed up, and then proceed to win because the fight is a non-issue.

Mind, this is going in blind. I tend to avoid "spoiling" MSQ fights as they are content that everyone should be able to beat (yes, including RM).

[RitsukoSonoda]

there's also no reason to lock the basic endgame gearing grind behind a superboss.

If you don't have the player skill needed to actually get into and complete endgame content then why bother even gearing for it?

[Sandpark]

If you don't have the player skill needed to actually get into and complete endgame content then why bother even gearing for it?

If you don't complete MSQ you can't access future features locked behind the MSQ. Beating the MSQ is not supposed to be a skill/gear check for endgame. Because trials and raids shouldn't be the only endgame.

Let's say there was no bought passes via expansion or jump potions.

If you don't beat MSQ ARR, you can't even access HW. Don't beat HW, you can't even access SB, and so on and so on