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  1. #21
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    Spiroglyph's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by blindfoldedkaos View Post
    I'm all for making the royal menagerie harder, not easier.
    We should be getting an extreme version of this fight at some point: "Please look forward to it!"

    Jokes aside, though, although I usually don't do a lot of end game content this is one fight I really, REALLY am looking forward to see.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    I have saved some parties before with my Red Mage (raising healers and tanks, etc...)
    The fight is working as intended and should not be touched
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  3. #23
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    King Canadane
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    Please keep the difficulty, it's perfect.
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  4. #24
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    Nic Pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    I'd like to point out that you probably haven't done many EX trials if you think Royal Menagerie is on the level of one.
    Bismark, ravana, garuda, ifrit , Id actually say that royal is harder than all of these and lakimismi extreme just saying
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Bismark, ravana, garuda, ifrit , Id actually say that royal is harder than all of these and lakimismi extreme just saying
    Objectively wrong.

    Bismark: need to have at least some idea of the weather and stack mechanics before going in
    Ravana: need to know how to handle liberation mechanics with a coordinated team before going in
    Lakshmi: closer, but still need a good knowledge of how handle vril and and pairing for Doubt.

    (Admittedly haven't done Ifrit and Garuda)

    RM is objectively easier than these fights. It mostly boils down to stay out of the AoEs and don't fall into the pit, and there's enough time between attacks that a death or two doesn't mean the run's over and you can recover. Plus no real enrage timer.
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  6. #26
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    K'talyn Tohka
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    Has the OP provided statistics to back up the argument? Did SE released the latest census? If it did, what is the clear % for Royal Menagerie? If the clear % is lower, then a nerf is possible. But the comments from this thread and other ones with the same theme suggest the opposite: The difficulty is fine, don't lower it. And I agree. This is the final boss fight. It won't hold its punches and neither do you. Go all out.
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    Calista Fallon
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    Leave the difficulty for those that think they are all that, just remove off the MSQ and all is good. If I decide to do roulettes and it pops, I can just take the timer.
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  8. #28
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    Claire Pendragon
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    There is not a single EX that is as easy as the royal menagerie.
    But, there ARE some Hard modes, and Normal modes roughly as hard as it, if not harder. (for thier iLv and time.)
    I'd say the royal menagerie is somewhere around Ifrit HM in difficulty, for when it was released, but a tad bit harder than ravanaa HM when people were new. (a lot of groups couldnt clear ravana HM and kept vote abandoning when it was released.)

    This is a step up from whats in the MSQ, but its not on the level of an EX yet. (unless you're severely out gearing an EX.)
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    There is not a single EX that is as easy as the royal menagerie.
    But, there ARE some Hard modes, and Normal modes roughly as hard as it, if not harder. (for thier iLv and time.)
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    your kidding right the royal menagerie is harder than , gaurda ex for sure, and Id say its harder than lamsiki extreme to, as well as bismark the only thing in bis really is the dps check on the adds, and Id also say its harder than ifrit extreme to
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    your kidding right the royal menagerie is harder than , gaurda ex for sure, and Id say its harder than lamsiki extreme to, as well as bismark the only thing in bis really is the dps check on the adds, and Id also say its harder than ifrit extreme to

    Ummmm that's only because of item level scaling. Back when it was new like royal menagerie, it was way harder. You can't compare old ex primal to this unless you played it when it first dropped and around the recommend item level.
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