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    Veila Frehr
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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
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    Wow, this is some amazing help from everyone, thank you!! Most stuff explained makes total sense now, so to keep my replies from being an essay, I figured I would just focus on things that I'm still not 100% on.

    First thing was, I was able to try each opener last night, and I definitely saw an improvement already. Yay! Only thing is, for the openers that had Perfect Balance, I kept hitting a snag where PB would run out, and my form would drop mid combo, messing up the rest of the opener. I tried many times to see if it was a timing issue, but I couldn't manage to get around that block. Even just standing in one spot and hitting skills just before cd to try and get through them wasn't reliably quick enough (very annoying to have to wait for PB's cd every time. Don't suppose there's a way around this for practicing? lol). Some of the openers had oGCD skills sprinkled in between the combos, but even when I took those out to test, something's just not working right, lol. Now I'm even more worried about having less SKS.

    For example, the opener would be going smoothly, then I would get to RoF (tried with IR and without), DK, TS, and just about after hitting TS, PB would drop and I couldn't use Dem or Snap. I did a little frankenstein-ing of the openers to try and shift the combo just beyond PB's drop so I could do it, but still working on it. I'm liking the RoF/and or IR just before DK and TS, and then getting a second Dem in there so they all get the buff, as suggested. Speed isn't a make or break for MNK, I just assumed I wasn't the speed I was supposed to be. Hard to explain all this in just text, sorry. Basically, my concern is getting around PB dropping my form. I guess I never realized it overrides whatever forms the actual skills give me while active. What am I doing wrong?

    My only other question (that I can remember) was, are openers more just reserved for bosses? I would assume going through an opener for every little dungeon mob/add might be a bit overkill, not entirely possible, so how exactly are those treated? Just normal rotation? I know it can depend on which mob/add, but just curious.

    To NintenPyjak64: I plan on watching that video! Haven't had a chance to today xD

    Thanks again to you all taking the time to help me out :P It was fun to see how well the openers boosted me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veila View Post
    My only other question (that I can remember) was, are openers more just reserved for bosses? I would assume going through an opener for every little dungeon mob/add might be a bit overkill, not entirely possible, so how exactly are those treated? Just normal rotation? I know it can depend on which mob/add, but just curious.
    The full Openers ar mostly reserved to Raid bosses, because you can make shure all CDs ar up for this. For Dungeon bosses use what you have on CDs, but always start in Courl Form.

    For your PB problem. In my Opinion you are using your RoF to early. You use RoF after PB falls off to make shure you get GL III refreshed before PB falls off.
    In the Opener I don't want to have the lengthened recast from RoF while PB at all, but I'm a 0 SkS MNK and focusing more on the other secondaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veila View Post
    Don't suppose there's a way around this for practicing?
    What I like to do is hop into SSS (Stone, Sky, Sea) and use that to practice openers/rotations. So, if I (undoubtedly) mess up - all you have to do is step out (talk to the NPC to leave the area) and come back in. All CDs are refreshed upon entering SSS to my knowledge.

    It's great you've been practicing and asking questions/for advice! Being open-minded and practicing is a wonderful attitude to have, and I'm confident it'll pay off for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion88 View Post
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    Gotcha! I'll be referring to this page often til I get everything down.

    Haha...well that makes sense, and is most likely the problem. Maybe I was too sleepy and didn't realize; must be it. Logging in now to test that out. Thank you!!

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    Hadn't even thought of that. Genius! Off to test that right now too.

    Thank you so much for the kind words <3 <3 I'm going to become beast!
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