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  1. #51
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    TristanBlane's Avatar
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    Crucius Lapin
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    They seriously need to completely rework the glamour function. Having to horde all this old armor and glamour items is ridiculous, having glamour locked behind different jobs sucks, and not being able to have different glamour for each job gets in the way with jobs that share gear but one has antiquated armor you want for it.

    I'm just salty cuz I want that new Leather Jacket that the gatherers get but I cant glamour it over my outfits. /sadface

    Heres to hoping oneday they will change all these things!
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    Nerfworthy's Avatar
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    Luka Larkspur
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    Quote Originally Posted by TristanBlane View Post
    They seriously need to completely rework the glamour function. Having to horde all this old armor and glamour items is ridiculous, having glamour locked behind different jobs sucks, and not being able to have different glamour for each job gets in the way with jobs that share gear but one has antiquated armor you want for it.

    I'm just salty cuz I want that new Leather Jacket that the gatherers get but I cant glamour it over my outfits. /sadface

    Heres to hoping oneday they will change all these things!
    My only encouragement on this is how long it took WoW to implement their transmog armory system. I'm hoping it doesn't take as long for FFXIV, but I keep reminding myself the game is only 4 years old. They still have time to improve.
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    A healers job is to dps and keep the party alive while doing so, you got the wrong idea about healers.

  3. #53
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feidam View Post
    My suggestion is tie the glamour to the job stone. Since we have to equip it for each job.
    But then you might want to have different glamour for differen occasions on the same job. If it's going to require an overhaul, the new design should be made as flexible as possible.

    Glamour Slot: used to equip a Glamour Prism, a crafted item. Glamour Prisms can be used to record what the player is currently wearing. When using a Glamour Prism, players will need to give it a short name. Gearsets will remember which Glamour Prism you have equipped for each gearset. When a Glamour Prism is equipped, if your class/job does not match the recorded class/job, then the Glamour Prism has no effect, and you get a red system warning.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
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  4. #54
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    Grace Marigold
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by TristanBlane View Post
    They seriously need to completely rework the glamour function. Having to horde all this old armor and glamour items is ridiculous, having glamour locked behind different jobs sucks, and not being able to have different glamour for each job gets in the way with jobs that share gear but one has antiquated armor you want for it.

    I'm just salty cuz I want that new Leather Jacket that the gatherers get but I cant glamour it over my outfits. /sadface

    Heres to hoping oneday they will change all these things!
    I'm really curious why they decided to lock the new gathering gear to disciples of the land now. Before this wasn't the case. Except for unique job specific gear (artifact armor) nothing should be locked really.

    I remember hearing somewhere a while ago part of the reason they didn't unlock everything is because in pvp they want you to know what jobs you are fighting against by looking at then and not get deceived. However, nearly everyone wears bathing suits or something similarly stupid so it's not like you can tell they are a Paladin anyway. If they are really concerned about that, in ranked pvp they should have forced job artifact armor glamour for "balance" and recognition. Everywhere else does it really matter if you can't tell what someone is by looking at them? I know this can be done because they did it in the story when you participate as part of the grand melee on behalf of Ishgard and they put you in Ishgardian armor so.. "code, servers, PS4 limitations, starving kids in Africa blah blah blah" excuses cannot even apply there because they've already done it.
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    Last edited by DJaySaint; 08-28-2017 at 10:30 AM.

  5. #55
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    Jeykama's Avatar
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    Meru Maru
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJaySaint View Post
    I'm really curious why they decided to lock the new gathering gear to disciples of the hand now.
    Hand is the crafters though?

    It's not good to compare this game's vanity system to any other games' because what other multiplayer game with heavy vanity allows you to play multiple jobs on one character (full jobs with distinct gear sets, not just spec changes)? Not WoW, not Wildstar, not GW2, not SWTOR, not LOTRO, not ESO, not PSO2 (multiple jobs but no gear other than weapon), not Diablo III, not ...

    Just because of the multi-job and multi-armor nature of FFXIV you would need a multi-pronged approach to completely fix Glamour.

    1) A Glamour log.
    This took WoW a decade and required an overhaul of certain systems to do and it was worth the wait but who knows harrowing it was to rewrite all that code. Even if it only pulls from gear you own, can craft, and stuff accessible from the Salvager, it would be really nice just to have all your accessible glamours in one spot to mess with.

    2) Job-specific glamours.
    WoW does this with their spec-specific transmog but there's only a max of 4 possible specs for each character. FFXIV has to make this work with up to 26 jobs and rising for the various all-class items so WoW's system probably won't work. Glamour is done tangibly in the game via the Glamour Prisms, so for flavor reasons the best suggestions I've seen are to tie Glamour sets directly to the jobs via new Soulstone functionality (and add a prism-only "Soulstone" for those without them) or utilize that bottom-left empty space in the paper doll for a new Glamour Prism slot in which you can save sets of glamour.
    I am stupid because I pentamelded 8 sets of crafter gear and 3 gathering sets because I like the job-specific DoH/DoL sets - please stop making visually amazing crafter/gatherer sets that are practically useless out of the gate. This would save my sanity because overmelding is still dinosaur-era bunk.

    3) Removing job restrictions on non-"Artifact" gear.
    Let's face it devs, tanks can run around in bikinis so why is it so immersion-breaking if they can also appear to run around in heavy DRG armor?
    I imagine a lot of the reason is spiritbond abuse.
    Yet another reason is ilvl abuse to get around ilvl-restricted duties.
    Another reason is people being confused over what gear to wear, but they haven't changed job-restricted ARR gear where the problem is the worst.
    I don't have an answer to gear confusion other than keeping the jobs listed on the gear (and adding it to ARR stuff), but ilvl and spiritbond can be fixed by gear giving no stats, spiritbond or ilvl contribution if not equipped by the appropriate class/job as recommended by the item (cue tanks going "but mah 270 jewelry"). Also add generous ilvl reqs to levelling dungeons.

    There is already precedent for unrestricted gatherer/crafter gear for glamours, but you need 50/60 in the respective job to use them (Korean Live Letter https://i.redd.it/9182jozozd1y.png)

    Looking at all that, it makes keeping chocobo buddy out during duty queues look like child's play. What a sad mess.
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    Last edited by Jeykama; 08-28-2017 at 06:32 AM.

  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    Hand is the crafters though?.
    Right, I put hand by mistake because I intended to say both but got sidetracked while replying. But the glamour for both is locked to hand/land now instead of all classes like it was before. Just not sure why they randomly decided to do that now after not doing it in Heavensward with anything but the job specific gear.
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    I'd much rather they let us have more than one piece of armor of the unique sets, so I can have separate sets with different materia for black mage and red mage for instance.
    As for the glamour I really wish it was like the GW2 System.
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    Elrica Lavandula
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DJaySaint View Post
    I'm really curious why they decided to lock the new gathering gear to disciples of the land now. Before this wasn't the case. Except for unique job specific gear (artifact armor) nothing should be locked really.
    Probably because people were wearing gathering and crafting gear to dungeons (rarely) and because they locked everything else as well.

    I would be ok with that. But only if they still let me glamour gathering gear for battle classes and let me glamour tank accessories as a healer and so on. I get that I should not wear crafting gear as a battle class but why can't I even glamour it?
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    Rogue Fuki
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    I hate the fact that there are so many robes/dresses as gear for guys. Give us more jackets more hoodies more shorts and less robes and dresses. Feel like i'm playing Game of Thrones or Lord of the rings.
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    Im not sure if its been mentioned, but I like SWTOR's system over WOW's as it does not tie the glam to pieces at all.
    Its a little like costumes in GW2, except you get to make the costume from individual pieces you have collected and stamp them into a set, and you can have up to 16 sets.
    But I do like the gear collections system in wow, tie that into the SWTOR system and you have the ultimate glam system.
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